[bananarama]

Originally Posted by angus58

Funny how criminals can break the law with impunity, can assault and kill, steal other people's property, burglarise other people's homes, kidnap, rape and abduct children and then when they are caught they are able to invoke THEIR human rights. It is the height of hypocrisy to break the law, then be able to invoke its protection and privileges

As far as I'm concerned all criminals should forfeit any recourse to Human Rights or any other Rights enshrined in Law. A criminal act is, after all, an invasion and abuse of someone else's human rights. Instead of Human Rights legisation we should have a Bill of Rights that gives protection and privileges to the law abiding people of this country, that can only be invoked so long as people adhere to their responsibilities to be good citizens.

Briliant post.......Agree one million percent........My blood boils when I hear someone is worried about the level of force used against a burgler for example.....The minimum force regime is riduculous.......How on earth can one know what a safe minimum force is against a stranger whoe's strenghth and reactions you know nothing about.....Maximum force should allway be allowed no matter what the consequences are to the criminal........And that should apply to criminals escaping from its victim as they should not be allowed to escape and commit the same crime on another victim.......

The death penalty is not about deterent although I believe it is a detertent it is about JUSTICE for the victim and families.......

[PaulyJ]

Originally Posted by bananarama

The death penalty is not about deterent although I believe it is a detertent it is about JUSTICE for the victim and families.......

There is a certain cruelty inflicted on, say the family of Jamie Bulger, when they hear their sons killer's have been released.

The death penalty would save them from this turture, and this is the only sensible justification i can think of for the death penalty.

If the conviction was truely "Beyond Doubt" then i would support the Death Penalty, but i just don't trust the way in which Human Beings, and therefore Courts, define "Beyond Doubt". The Belief Engine works to fool us all

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13049149/The-Belief-Engine

And once you know about it, and understand it, can you honestly take a persons life, and not feel a killer's guilt.