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Mystic Mock · 05-02-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

You are a primitive barbarian who wants blood

no i dont and i shouldnt be classed with cold blooded murderers who acturally want to do it as a sport

InOne · 05-02-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

no i dont and i shouldnt be classed with cold blooded murderers who acturally want to do it as a sport

You are the same.

Mystic Mock · 05-02-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

You are the same.

if you say so because i have fantasies of killing people well done you got me

InOne · 05-02-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

if you say so because i have fantasies of killing people well done you got me

lawl

bananarama · 05-02-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

i still think its cold blooded murder if you do it out of revenge if nothing happened to you

No. A crime of passion is not the same as revenge.......A crime of passion is when one is temporary out of ones mind with the stress of being a victim of serious crime. Not really in control of your ations......However if one did in cold blood plan a revenge killing then that is indeed cold blooded murder and should be dealt with accordingly.....

Angus · 05-02-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacey.x

it depends on the situation I think.
but, really... yes, they have killed... but no, i dont agree with the death penalty.

they definitely deserve a second chance

Like the one they gave their victim, or a second chance to kill again?

Mystic Mock · 05-02-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bananarama

No. A crime of passion is not the same as revenge.......A crime of passion is when one is temporary out of ones mind with the stress of being a victim of serious crime. Not really in control of your ations......However if one did in cold blood plan a revenge killing then that is indeed cold blooded murder and should be dealt with accordingly.....

no i understand the victim im on about parents though although there intensions are right its cold and calculating

BB_Eye · 05-02-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bananarama

I don't think you can compare one country to another country as they have different social values such as the right to own guns.....and other factors....

It's not just a question of deterent it's a question of JUSTICE being done to the victims........And to the tax payer who finances long jail terms.......We sentence the sick to death by refusing to finance expensive drugs to extend life yet give murderers a blank cheque to keep them alive in jail......Morality gone mad....

You make a valid point, but I think this is more of an incentive for healthcare to receive proper funding than to bring in the death penalty. It goes without saying that prisoners should live on basic subsistence. As far as I see it, lengthy or lifetime jail sentence is justice. The utmost duty of the law should be to protect society and once a criminal is incarcerated, they no longer have any power over their victims. At this stage, revenge becomes pointless.

InOne · 05-02-2010, 08:15 PM

Murder is subjective, therefore this whole debate is a sham.

Mystic Mock · 05-02-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye

You make a valid point, but I think this is more of an incentive for healthcare to receive proper funding than to bring in the death penalty. It goes without saying that prisoners should live on basic subsistence. As far as I see it, lengthy or lifetime jail sentence is justice. The utmost duty of the law should be to protect society and once a criminal is incarcerated, they no longer have any power over their victims. At this stage, revenge becomes pointless.

yes but they come out eventrully to kill again i think that if we kill them it would be for the best

Mystic Mock · 05-02-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Murder is subjective, therefore this whole debate is a sham.

yes you think so

InOne · 05-02-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

yes you think so

There is no good argument for the death penalty...

Mystic Mock · 05-02-2010, 08:25 PM

and also wheres the victims second chance if the killer is allowed to

InOne · 05-02-2010, 08:29 PM

Killing the killer does not bring the victim back.

bananarama · 05-02-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye

You make a valid point, but I think this is more of an incentive for healthcare to receive proper funding than to bring in the death penalty. It goes without saying that prisoners should live on basic subsistence. As far as I see it, lengthy or lifetime jail sentence is justice. The utmost duty of the law should be to protect society and once a criminal is incarcerated, they no longer have any power over their victims. At this stage, revenge becomes pointless.

I think there would be fewer people calling for the death penality if indeed murderes did get life..Instead they get minimum terms which are often quite ridiculous and do not serve justice........

17 year old stabs young cadet and gets 17 year and then could be released.......Sorry but the victim cannot go before a board in 17 years time and ask for his life back......Cold blooded killers of that type should never never come out......Regardless of his young age.........

My view if we ration the sick to the point they die as a result then we should consider rationing the affordability of keeping worthless murderers alive......Makes moral sense.......

Mystic Mock · 05-02-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Killing the killer does not bring the victim back.

yes and what im saying is kill them as they dont deserve the second chance and they didnt care about the victims why should we care about theres is what i think

InOne · 05-02-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

yes and what im saying is kill them as they dont deserve the second chance and they didnt care about the victims why should we care about theres is what i think

You don't think outside the box.

bananarama · 05-02-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

You don't think outside the box.

Get too far out of the box and you just get lost and confused.......

InOne · 05-02-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bananarama

Get too far out of the box and you just get lost and confused.......

Typical PC middle class BS

setanta · 05-02-2010, 09:03 PM

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Stacey. · 05-02-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

Like the one they gave their victim, or a second chance to kill again?

obviously, keep them in prison for a year or so... depending on the crime thats been commit..
but sometimes, it can make the person a much better person

bronaaaa · 05-02-2010, 09:10 PM

Nope, not the death pelanty, two wrongs don't make a right etc. and tbh, imprisoning them for life would be a much worse punishment, as they'd be forced to live with what they'd done..killing them is just giving them an escape from personal torture