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Originally Posted by Dezzy
Thanks, my main argument in this thread has really been less about Terry and more about the idea of enforcing the role of Role Model upon someone. Kids shouldn't need a Role model to teach them right from wrong because that's the parent's job and I think it's wrong for people to expect a person in the media to hold that responsibility. Media and the people in it are used as a scapegoats for parental shortcomings too much these days.
When it comes to John Terry, I actually haven't commented much on what he's done because it doesn't really interest me but I disagree that his upbringing's to blame actually. I think that only holds water when the person is still young and doesn't know better as you grow older you should know better by yourself. My upbringing was good but it wasn't perfect yet I had the moment of realisation of what went wrong at points and changed by myself in my life. I don't know if I'm making much sense but basically he's old enough to know better.
That being said he's still one of the best players we have and is an important part of the national team.
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As far as everyone's aware, JT has only been stripped of his captaincy, and it is more than likely that Capello will take the pragmatic view and he will still be playing in the WC since he IS a fine footballer. I guess it all depends on what further revelations there will be in the coming week(s) especially if JT is involved in fraud.
I can't comment on Terry's home upbringing but I know he went to Chelsea at age 14 under their youth scheme and they must take part of any blame that attaches to the way he's turned out - a fine footballer maybe, a leader yes, but clearly lacking in loyalty and team spirit if he could so selfishly cause so much disruption in the WC squad.
I don't think Terry seriously thought he would be stripped of the captaincy which is why he spent so much money buying silence from Vanessa (and others), and that it would all blow over. He has also shown himself to be extremely dishonest in some of his financial dealings. Ordinarily things that happen in someone's personal life are of no consequence to anyone else, but Terry must have known that the things he were doing, if ever discovered, WOULD affect the public's perception of him (especially important to his sponsors whose products he promotes to sell to those who look up to him) and his team members, since it was a betrayal of loyalty and trust. Bridge isn't the only team member who didn't want him to retain the captaincy because he had "lost all respect for him".
As I've said in another post, it must be a generational thing, because I can remember WC squads who were considered heroes, and whose players were never embroiled in seedy scandals, and played the game primarily for the love of it. I know those days are gone, but I don't think it's too much to expect players to remember they are in the NATIONAL team and are ambassadors for England so that their behaviour will be scrutinised and criticised world wide.