[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh tongue in cheek at the end there, but tis her who advocated a complete lack of regulation in this country in the first place, dont get all high and mighty with me. And as for the tax credits theyre thinking of cutting them for middle income families (with children) like me who do depend on them to be able to work. Thatcher was anti Europe FACT

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Hate to say this but if you are middle income, wouldnt it appeal to your socialist leanings to give a little away to lower income families? Or is socialism only good for you when you arent losing out through it?

Thatcher was anti Federalist europe, she saw no problem with ties with Europe she just wanted Europe to be fair in its treatment of all european states not just for the benefit of the French and Germans. An example would be the fight over the CAP(Common Agricultural Policy) and the British Rebate. A rebate that the great benevolent Blair gave away a few short years ago.

In her Bruges speech which funnily enough was used by phoney Tony. Her speech was far less anti-European than it is now regularly portrayed and many of her concerns about the creation of an over arching European superstate have been accepted not only by the Labour party but by other EU states. She spoke about creating a "family of nations, understanding each other better, appreciating each other more, doing more together but relishing our national identity no less than our common European endeavour" - hardly the anti-European rant it is often now claimed to have been. Thats FACT.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

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Hate to say this but if you are middle income, wouldnt it appeal to your socialist leanings to give a little away to lower income families? Or is socialism only good for you when you arent losing out through it?

Thatcher was anti Federalist europe, she saw no problem with ties with Europe she just wanted Europe to be fair in its treatment of all european states not just for the benefit of the French and Germans. An example would be the fight over the CAP(Common Agricultural Policy) and the British Rebate. A rebate that the great benevolent Blair gave away a few short years ago.

In her Bruges speech which funnily enough was used by phoney Tony. Her speech was far less anti-European than it is now regularly portrayed and many of her concerns about the creation of an over arching European superstate have been accepted not only by the Labour party but by other EU states. She spoke about creating a "family of nations, understanding each other better, appreciating each other more, doing more together but relishing our national identity no less than our common European endeavour" - hardly the anti-European rant it is often now claimed to have been. Thats FACT.

yeh Im happy to pay taxes to help those less fortunate but not when people at the top are creaming off the rest of us and then getting us to pick up the tab when the greed game ****s up and not when theyre plannin inheritance tax breaks for millionaires....no Im not happy about that....and please you think Maggie would have gone for the working time directives gimme a break!

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

yeh Im happy to pay taxes to help those less fortunate but not when people at the top are creaming off the rest of us and then getting us to pick up the tab and not when theyre plannin inheritance tax breaks for millionaires....no Im not happy about that....and please you think Maggie would have gone for the working time directives gimme a break!

The Working Time Regulations (1998 amd 2003) implemented the European Working Time Directive into GB law. They came from Europe, they werent a statute drawn up by the Labour Party for the benefit of the workers. Due to the fact that we signed over certain powers to Europe under the various European Treaties since 1973, the European Commision decides most of our Health and Safety Laws.

If she was still in power and we were signed into Europe to the same state as we are under labour then she would have had to accept and implement them.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

The Working Time Regulations (1998 amd 2003) implemented the European Working Time Directive into GB law. They came from Europe, they werent a statute drawn up by the Labour Party for the benefit of the workers. Due to the fact that we signed over certain powers to Europe under the various European Treaties since 1973, the European Commision decides most of our Health and Safety Laws.

If she was still in power and we were signed into Europe to the same state as we are under labour then she would have had to accept and implement them.

She'd have done her damnedest not to fo sho mo fo

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

She'd have done her damnedest not to fo sho mo fo

Thats really immaterial isn't it, given that she is not in charge of the conservative party, nor are they currently in power?

Of course I am a mother fucker, I have got several children. All of them mine, except the smallest. I am fostering her for Satan.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Thats really immaterial isn't it, given that she is not in charge of the conservative party, nor are they currently in power?

Of course I am a mother fucker, I have got several children. All of them mine, except the smallest. I am fostering her for Satan.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Given that most Health and Safety Regulations were actually enacted during the Thatcher (1979-90) and Major(1990-1997) governments, and have simply been amended or added to since then I think its a fair bet that she would have adopted the European Working Time Directives in probably the same manner and time frame as labour did.