[boldjohn]

Originally Posted by KingPrawn

Please produce examples of bad editing. She got away with quite a bit.

The weekend before final nominations she spent most of it flirting with and manipulating Glyn to ensure that Glyn did not nominate. Once she found out that she was not up for nomination the flirting with Glyn stopped. That is why Glyn hardly spoke to her from that point onwards. Yet none of this was shown in the highlights show.

She was very lucky to get to the final. In week 6, if it was not for the HND Twist she would have been evicted there and then. It also meant that she was not nominated in week 7.

Then in week 12 she got lucky again when Pete 'changed' his nomination from Aisleyne to Glyn. She would have been evicted in week 12 and not got to the final.

By the end of BB7 she did not seem to get on with any of her fellow housemates. Why is that? Because they were fed up with her.

Discussion of the nomination changes made Aisleyne look bad, even though she had nothing to do with the decisions. Glyn's complaints were shown in the highlights shows. I don't blame Glyn for thinking she used him, but that doesn't mean than she did use him. Glyn and Jenny told blocked Ash out of their conversations because they were bitching about her. Every one of Aisleyne's faults was brought under the microscope. So they were fed up with her were they? Never mind Nikki's behaviour. That was just laughed off because they all thought she was popular. Aisleyne, who was believed by the housemates to be unpopular outside, was fair game for criticism and believed to be someone to keep away from.
Aisleyne prospered fromthe HND, but she was voted in by the public, so she enjoyed its advantages because that was whatthe public wanted. It was more based on her merits than on good fortune.

Anti Aisleyne editing:
Where do I start?
Little coverage of her funny late night chats with Michael.
Little coverage of the relentless anti-Ash bitching in the HND and in the house in the last week.
Stitch up in the final weeks with tasks.
Speech task presented to look as if Ash deliberately messed up her speech to damage Pete's chances of winning.
No coverage of Grace telling a pack of lies about telling Aisleyne where to get off when she went into the house.
Aisleyne was slaughtered in the BB supporting shows right up to the last week when the complaints came in. Then suddenly we began to hear from people who liked her.

Ex-housemates on BBBM threatened to target Aisleyne (some even threatened to hit her) when bidding for a place in the HND.

I believe it was a combination of the editing, the renta mob outside, the unfair treatment and the resulting effects on Aisleyne in the last 3 days that saw her popularity fall and caused her to finish in 3rd place.

[KingPrawn]

Originally Posted by boldjohn

Discussion of the nomination changes made Aisleyne look bad, even though she had nothing to do with the decisions. Glyn's complaints were shown in the highlights shows. I don't blame Glyn for thinking she used him, but that doesn't mean than she did use him. Glyn and Jenny told blocked Ash out of their conversations because they were bitching about her. Every one of Aisleyne's faults was brought under the microscope. So they were fed up with her were they? Never mind Nikki's behaviour. That was just laughed off because they all thought she was popular. Aisleyne, who was believed by the housemates to be unpopular outside, was fair game for criticism and believed to be someone to keep away from.
Aisleyne prospered fromthe HND, but she was voted in by the public, so she enjoyed its advantages because that was whatthe public wanted. It was more based on her merits than on good fortune.

Anti Aisleyne editing:
Where do I start?
Little coverage of her funny late night chats with Michael.
Little coverage of the relentless anti-Ash bitching in the HND and in the house in the last week.
Stitch up in the final weeks with tasks.
Speech task presented to look as if Ash deliberately messed up her speech to damage Pete's chances of winning.
No coverage of Grace telling a pack of lies about telling Aisleyne where to get off when she went into the house.
Aisleyne was slaughtered in the BB supporting shows right up to the last week when the complaints came in. Then suddenly we began to hear from people who liked her.

Ex-housemates on BBBM threatened to target Aisleyne (some even threatened to hit her) when bidding for a place in the HND.

I believe it was a combination of the editing, the renta mob outside, the unfair treatment and the resulting effects on Aisleyne in the last 3 days that saw her popularity fall and caused her to finish in 3rd place.

Both Pete and Glyn were always going to finish 1st and 2nd. She never stood a chance of displacing them.

If anything it was the behaviour of the ex housemates in the HND that improved her popularity. She received a sympathy vote similar to Sara in BB9 (over Darnell and Rex 'bullying' Sara). That is the reason why she beat Richard.

If you read the forums the majority of the incidents you have highlighted probably helped her more than hindered her.

[boldjohn]

Originally Posted by KingPrawn

Both Pete and Glyn were always going to finish 1st and 2nd. She never stood a chance of displacing them.

If anything it was the behaviour of the ex housemates in the HND that improved her popularity. She received a sympathy vote similar to Sara in BB9 (over Darnell and Rex 'bullying' Sara). That is the reason why she beat Richard.

If you read the forums the majority of the incidents you have highlighted probably helped her more than hindered her.

Aiseyne was second favourite with most bookies until the late afternoon on the final day, when some put Glyn up to 2nd. So for Glyn to finish 2nd, Aisleyne had to be displaced. I would accept that some incidents won sympathy with the forum members who watched the live feed. Very few of them liked Pete or Glyn. The trouble is most people just watched the highlights and saw a negative representation of Aisleyne. If Aisleyne did prosper from the editing, it would have been because people thought she was being unfairly treated. I gather that a similar thing happened to Rachel Rice in BB9.

[KingPrawn]

Originally Posted by boldjohn

Aiseyne was second favourite with most bookies until the late afternoon on the final day, when some put Glyn up to 2nd. So for Glyn to finish 2nd, Aisleyne had to be displaced. I would accept that some incidents won sympathy with the forum members who watched the live feed. Very few of them liked Pete or Glyn. The trouble is most people just watched the highlights and saw a negative representation of Aisleyne. If Aisleyne did prosper from the editing, it would have been because people thought she was being unfairly treated. I gather that a similar thing happened to Rachel Rice in BB9.

Aisleyne was second favourite because of a story that appeared in the red tops stating that Aisleyne was ahead in the vote. I suspect that Pete and Glyn were always ahead but the producers, always looking at their profit line, started a rumour that Aisleyne was ahead in the vote to 'encourage' Pete and Glyn fans to vote even more.

You say that people got a negative representation of Aisleyne. I disagree. The highlights showed the following incidents:-

a. sticking up for Michael when Richard called Michael a 'she';
b. calming down a row between Spiral and Jennie;
c. her comic turn of sticking 50 Malteasers in her mouth.

These and other incidents showed Aisleyne in a positive light.

Obviously, there were incidents that Aisleyne deservedly got lambasted for:-

a. flirting around with Pete in front of Nikki on her return from HND;
b. recounting a conversation she had with Grace to Mikey during the first spin-the-bottle where Grace was embarrassed by Mikey joining in with the game and Grace stated that she would '...not take Mikey home to meet her mother';
c. her behaviour over being labelled the top 'Mach' in the house with just ridiculous.

And BB did not show on the highlights show her taking advantage of an 18 year old boy by flirting with him during the weekend before final nominations just so she wouldn't be up for eviction. If the general public has seen that then she would have not been very popular at all.

[boldjohn]

Originally Posted by KingPrawn

Aisleyne was second favourite because of a story that appeared in the red tops stating that Aisleyne was ahead in the vote. I suspect that Pete and Glyn were always ahead but the producers, always looking at their profit line, started a rumour that Aisleyne was ahead in the vote to 'encourage' Pete and Glyn fans to vote even more.

You say that people got a negative representation of Aisleyne. I disagree. The highlights showed the following incidents:-

a. sticking up for Michael when Richard called Michael a 'she';
b. calming down a row between Spiral and Jennie;
c. her comic turn of sticking 50 Malteasers in her mouth.

These and other incidents showed Aisleyne in a positive light.

Obviously, there were incidents that Aisleyne deservedly got lambasted for:-

a. flirting around with Pete in front of Nikki on her return from HND;
b. recounting a conversation she had with Grace to Mikey during the first spin-the-bottle where Grace was embarrassed by Mikey joining in with the game and Grace stated that she would '...not take Mikey home to meet her mother';
c. her behaviour over being labelled the top 'Mach' in the house with just ridiculous.

And BB did not show on the highlights show her taking advantage of an 18 year old boy by flirting with him during the weekend before final nominations just so she wouldn't be up for eviction. If the general public has seen that then she would have not been very popular at all.

There was nothing wrong with Aisleyne talking to Pete. At that time, Nikki and Pete were not an item and Pete was not anyone's property. Aisleyne did not come between Pete and Nikki when Pete made his feelings for Nikki clear.

It was good that the producers showed some of Aisleyne's postive points, but why shouldn't they have shown them if that's what she did? The negative stuff was usually heresay. It came from other housemates such a Nikki, Lea or Richard, who gave a running commentary on all the negative parts of her character. We rarely saw or heard see any evidence to back up their claims - just catchy slurs and insults, which were snapped up by BB presenters, who made it clear that Aisleyne was not their favourite. All of the presenters were horrible towards her until the complaints came in the final week.

Aisleyne's large internet following comprised people who'd enjoyed watching her on E4 and were disappointed to see so much positive Aisleyne moments exclluded from the highlights. We were watching a totally different show to the one which was manifactured for the highlights show. A newspaper article at the time quoted an inside source saying that the producers were engineering the programme to prevent Aisleyne from winning. Your suspicion that Pete and Glyn were always ahead overlooks the betting in the final week, which placed Aisleyne as second favourite. Some put Glyn as second favourite on Friday evening. Glyn had to overtake Aisleyne to come second.

[KingPrawn]

Originally Posted by boldjohn

There was nothing wrong with Aisleyne talking to Pete. At that time, Nikki and Pete were not an item and Pete was not anyone's property. Aisleyne did not come between Pete and Nikki when Pete made his feelings for Nikki clear.

I think that they did a bit more than just talk! She flirted with Pete, in front of Nikki, just to spite Nikki (and by the way I think Pete is just as bad).

Originally Posted by boldjohn

It was good that the producers showed some of Aisleyne's postive points, but why shouldn't they have shown them if that's what she did? The negative stuff was usually heresay. It came from other housemates such a Nikki, Lea or Richard, who gave a running commentary on all the negative parts of her character. We rarely saw or heard see any evidence to back up their claims - just catchy slurs and insults, which were snapped up by BB presenters, who made it clear that Aisleyne was not their favourite. All of the presenters were horrible towards her until the complaints came in the final week.

Of course, but you take the rough with the smooth.

Let's look at Richard. The day before Grace's eviction, he had a conversation with Aisleyne concerning Imogen. Aisleyne called Imogen 'fake' and a 'manteef' during the conversation. Yet the following night, after the water incident, she was making up with Imogen and becoming her best friend. No wonder he and Lea had a go at Aisleyne's hypocrisy.

Then look at her tears over Imogen's eviction. When Imogen was moved into the house next door with Richard, she celebrated the fact that she was in the final (while Pete, Jennie and Glyn were sad at the loss of their friends). All thought of her friend went right out of the window didn't it? Those tears were fake and a lot of people know it!

Originally Posted by boldjohn

Aisleyne's large internet following comprised people who'd enjoyed watching her on E4 and were disappointed to see so much positive Aisleyne moments exclluded from the highlights. We were watching a totally different show to the one which was manifactured for the highlights show. A newspaper article at the time quoted an inside source saying that the producers were engineering the programme to prevent Aisleyne from winning. Your suspicion that Pete and Glyn were always ahead overlooks the betting in the final week, which placed Aisleyne as second favourite. Some put Glyn as second favourite on Friday evening. Glyn had to overtake Aisleyne to come second.

If the producers were engineering the show to ensure that Aisleyne would not win then they did a pretty poor job.

She should have been nominated and evicted during the final set of nominations yet Pete, inextricably, changed his nomination from Aisleyne to Glyn. They could have got rid of her there and then. But it looks like they engineered it to keep her in!

Let's look at the final week. The moment that everyone talks about is Aisleyne's speech about Pete. The reaction to that speech (along with his 'I have a dream' speech) just exposed Pete's shallowness. Yet Aisleyne fans hold it up as bias against their girl!

The story you quoted was published in that paragon of truth, the Daily Star. Very reliable.

[boldjohn]

Originally Posted by KingPrawn

I think that they did a bit more than just talk! She flirted with Pete, in front of Nikki, just to spite Nikki (and by the way I think Pete is just as bad).



Of course, but you take the rough with the smooth.

Let's look at Richard. The day before Grace's eviction, he had a conversation with Aisleyne concerning Imogen. Aisleyne called Imogen 'fake' and a 'manteef' during the conversation. Yet the following night, after the water incident, she was making up with Imogen and becoming her best friend. No wonder he and Lea had a go at Aisleyne's hypocrisy.

Then look at her tears over Imogen's eviction. When Imogen was moved into the house next door with Richard, she celebrated the fact that she was in the final (while Pete, Jennie and Glyn were sad at the loss of their friends). All thought of her friend went right out of the window didn't it? Those tears were fake and a lot of people know it!




If the producers were engineering the show to ensure that Aisleyne would not win then they did a pretty poor job.

She should have been nominated and evicted during the final set of nominations yet Pete, inextricably, changed his nomination from Aisleyne to Glyn. They could have got rid of her there and then. But it looks like they engineered it to keep her in!

Let's look at the final week. The moment that everyone talks about is Aisleyne's speech about Pete. The reaction to that speech (along with his 'I have a dream' speech) just exposed Pete's shallowness. Yet Aisleyne fans hold it up as bias against their girl!

The story you quoted was published in that paragon of truth, the Daily Star. Very reliable.

Point taken aabout the Star and you rightly point out the moments which could have worked in Aisleyne's favour. The producers had no involvement in Pete's nomination choices. It was more surprising to me when he did nominate Aisleyne than when he didn't nominate her. Ash never nominated Pete.

My problem with your argument is that the housemates were slagging her off, the presenters slagged her off, the audiences were slagging her off and the newspapers were slagging her off. I could not relate to any of the opinions about Aisleyne on the supporting shows. It looked like a stitch up. The reaction of the public to it does not mean that the producers tried to evoke sympathy for Aisleyne. They had a lynch mob of ex-housemates threatening her with physical violence. They sent in Grace to confront her before sending her other adversary, Nikki back into the house. None of this was intended to evoke sympathy. Aisleyne was the upstart latecomer that needed to be brought down spectacularly by the perceived big players.

This was character assassination from outside which influenced the behaviour within the house. If the public did feel sympathy for Aisleyne, that was because they knew that she had be unfairly treated and the vote for Aisleyne was a reaction against the actions of the producers. Some may have been put off Nikki and found Pete shallow, but I doubt if that was the intention. Yes I agree. They didn't do a good job.

[KingPrawn]

Originally Posted by KingPrawn

Let's look at Richard. The day before Grace's eviction, he had a conversation with Aisleyne concerning Imogen. Aisleyne called Imogen 'fake' and a 'manteef' during the conversation. Yet the following night, after the water incident, she was making up with Imogen and becoming her best friend. No wonder he and Lea had a go at Aisleyne's hypocrisy.

Then look at her tears over Imogen's eviction. When Imogen was moved into the house next door with Richard, she celebrated the fact that she was in the final (while Pete, Jennie and Glyn were sad at the loss of their friends). All thought of her friend went right out of the window didn't it? Those tears were fake and a lot of people know it!

Some cheeky git has copied it word for word and used it over at DS.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1217039&page=9