[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Marriage and consummation of marriage at an early age was a common practice in bedouin society in those days. bearing mind in mind it was 620 AD. The followers of Islam will claim that the consummation of the marriage was not carried out by actual intercourse but a form of foreplay.

If you want to shout about underage marriage go check out our own Good King Richard (II) and his marriage to Isabelle of France , oldest daughter of King Charles VI, was not quite seven years old when she married Richard II as his second wife in 1396. After his death 3 years later she was then ordered by King Henry IV to marry his son (the future Henry V), she refused. That was some 770 years later.

They married when she was 6 and had sex at 9. Richard was just a king of England, Muhammed is the founder of the fastest growing religion.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

They married when she was 6 and had sex at 9. Richard was just a king of England, Muhammed is the founder of the fastest growing religion.

Yeah Just a King of England, Isabelle was daughter of King Charles VI, he was just the king of France. So thats two of the most powerful leaders in the known world at the time. In those days marriages between royalty would have been sanctioned by the church.

So thats basically christianity agreeing with Richard marrying a child too. 750+ years after old Mohammed, religious leader of initially a few bedouin tribes followed a common practice among his people. And married a young girl in order to confirm she was a virgin and as such pure and worthy of bearing his line.

Social customs and beliefs change through time, wasnt so long ago slavery was ok and small children worked in factories.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yeah Just a King of England, Isabelle was daughter of King Charles VI, he was just the king of France. So thats two of the most powerful leaders in the known world at the time. In those days marriages between royalty would have been sanctioned by the church.

So thats basically christianity agreeing with Richard marrying a child too. 750+ years after old Mohammed, religious leader of initially a few bedouin tribes followed a common practice among his people. And married a young girl in order to confirm she was a virgin and as such pure and worthy of bearing his line.

Social customs and beliefs change through time, wasnt so long ago slavery was ok and small children worked in factories.

Might have been ok then, but why should we accept them and what they got upto now?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

Might have been ok then, but why should we accept them and what they got upto now?

Then there is no need to insult their prophet and their religion (if you want to class it as that), for customs and beliefs that have changed, I am not saying you should respect it, just dont denigrate it out of context. There are more than enough things you can rip into a lot of mainstream muslim belief for.

We have to accept them because if we dont they will call us racist and Gordon and Company will stick up for them.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Then there is no need to insult their prophet and their religion (if you want to class it as that), for customs and beliefs that have changed, I am not saying you should respect it, just dont denigrate it out of context. There are more than enough things you can rip into a lot of mainstream muslim belief for.

We have to accept them because if we dont they will call us racist and Gordon and Company will stick up for them.

Well their prophet and religion should be insulted. But women still get treated badly even in the UK and people don't say anything cos of 'respect'. And it's not insulting it's just the truth.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well their prophet and religion should be insulted. But women still get treated badly even in the UK and people don't say anything cos of 'respect'. And it's not insulting it's just the truth.

Will give you that one, no arguement on their treatment of women. I did say there were a lot of other things people can rip into them for.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Will give you that one, no arguement on their treatment of women. I did say there were a lot of other things people can rip into them for.

Yeah man, did you see that doc on Sharia courts in the UK? Not good.