[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

I guess you can only go on people really and what they buy and buy into. Even if the headline is false they still love stuff like 'Paedo found and jalied for 5 years'. It satisfies their simple minds until the next Maddie or Baby P comes along.

Yep I also like the way people hark back to the good old days, in reality it has always happened, just nowadays, with 24 hour news, instant communications and people being more aware of the support available and then receiving that support, its more common for people to open up and talk about it. Plus it gets a wider audience.

The thing to remember though newspaper editors need to fill papers, news program producers need to fill the time slots they have for the programs, consequently when no fresh news is happening they will rework the same information just phrasing it a different way and make the story bigger.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yep I also like the way people hark back to the good old days, in reality it has always happened, just nowadays, with 24 hour news, instant communications and people being more aware of the support available and then receiving that support, its more common for people to open up and talk about it. Plus it gets a wider audience.

The thing to remember though newspaper editors need to fill papers, news program producers need to fill the time slots they have for the programs, consequently when no fresh news is happening they will rework the same information just phrasing it a different way and make the story bigger.

Yep I mean, if you look back on it, it was worse. You'd never get another serial killer these days. They'd be caught pretty quick. We've been hardened to such acts with The Yorkshire Ripper and The Moors Murders, we know what it's all about. It shocks me that people get outraged at such acts these days, as if this is the only one that has ever happened.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yep I mean, if you look back on it, it was worse. You'd never get another serial killer these days. They'd be caught pretty quick. We've been hardened to such acts with The Yorkshire Ripper and The Moors Murders, we know what it's all about. It shocks me that people get outraged at such acts these days, as if this is the only one that has ever happened.

Nah you still get serial killers, Harold Shipman, convicted of 15 murders in 2000, but there is still still debate over his true total, some reckon it could at least double the number he was actually convicted of.

Then there is Peter Tobin sentenced in 2007 for 3 murders, police actually believe his total is in excess of 20. He apparently lay claim to over 40 victims.

Both excede the Ripper and the Moors Murderers. Then there was Fred and Rosemary West, they were stopped in the late 80's with a total of at least 12.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Nah you still get serial killers, Harold Shipman, convicted of 15 murders in 2000, but there is still still debate over his true total, some reckon it could at least double the number he was actually convicted of.

Then there is Peter Tobin sentenced in 2007 for 3 murders, police actually believe his total is in excess of 20. He apparently lay claim to over 40 victims.

Both excede the Ripper and the Moors Murderers. Then there was Fred and Rosemary West, they were stopped in the late 80's with a total of at least 12.

It always makes me wonder why Psychopathy pretty common yet serial killers are so rare. Cos really, they are quite rare, the extreme violence they commit. Plus the compulsions and everything else. You read 'Without Conscience'???

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

It always makes me wonder why Psychopathy pretty common yet serial killers are so rare. Cos really, they are quite rare, the extreme violence they commit. Plus the compulsions and everything else. You read 'Without Conscience'???

Nope dont think I have, any good?

I reckon it is something to do with control, there are forensic psychologists who think Shipman would never have been caught without forging the will, and it was only that, that drew attention to him, almost like he wanted to be caught because he had gone too far, maybe. And in arranging that he was controlling the end of his spree. Even his own suicide, showed elements of his need to control things.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Nope dont think I have, any good?

I reckon it is something to do with control, there are forensic psychologists who think Shipman would never have been caught without forging the will, and it was only that, that drew attention to him, almost like he wanted to be caught because he had gone too far, maybe. And in arranging that he was controlling the end of his spree. Even his own suicide, showed elements of his need to control things.

Worth a read man, really. Psychopaths are natually sadists, they do appear everywhere. And unfortunately, some will be harder to spot than others.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

Worth a read man, really. Psychopaths are natually sadists, they do appear everywhere. And unfortunately, some will be harder to spot than others.

Depending on the definition you define by. Some psychopaths are sadists, however some wont be sadist, as they show an almost clinical disinterest in the suffering of their victims. Saying that its only a small percentage of the population who would be classed as psychopathic.