[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Callum

That is so good to hear - I've never wanted to smoke ever in my life, haven't had the problem of passive smoking neither as not many people smoke where I live or if they do it's all done behind closed doors. Thankfully, nobody in my family who I see reguarly smoke.

But to be from an area where lots of people smoke/drink etc. and not want to do both because of it - that is so much more of an achievement.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Have you seen people on the street taking drugs such as heroin then?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Callum

Have you seen people on the street taking drugs such as heroin then?

Yes, I have seen E's, Cocaine, Heroin, Hash, Weed and drunks. Also substance abuse Aerosols, Glue, Nail Polish etc..
other stuff to but I can't remember.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Callum

I can't imagine what's it like for them. There's probably hundreds out there right now living a seemingly normal lifestyle who are addicted to heroin.

Like I said, more support needs to be provided. A lot of drug users tend to be involved with crime and prostitution as well which is even more sad. The key to less crime although of course not entirely is to sort out Britain's ever growing drug problem.

But saying that at least we don't have the problem of prescription drugs addiction over here. In the States, it's always been a big thing. It still does happen here but to a much less extent.

People like to brush it under the carpet. A sub-culture they like to pretend does not exist. Full of prozzies, pimps ect. There are mant programmes that do help, but it also does have to work both ways, it's gotta depend on how much they really want it and really strong willed they are. Because most likely, they will have been pretty vunerable to get hooked in the first place.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by InOne

People like to brush it under the carpet. A sub-culture they like to pretend does not exist. Full of prozzies, pimps ect. There are mant programmes that do help, but it also does have to work both ways, it's gotta depend on how much they really want it and really strong willed they are. Because most likely, they will have been pretty vunerable to get hooked in the first place.

That is so true. It's so sad how even though people want help they can't do anything about it because they need the drugs.

[Claymores]

Watch Trainspotting Callum

As part of my 1st degree, the thesis was about the impact of health rehabilitation clinics and government health campaigns. I centred it on exactly the part of Edinburgh that the book and movie were based upon. I soon learned the futility of the folks' situations and why heroin became an almost logical choice when no prospect of employment, no hopes and sod-all to do all day.

Trainspotting tries in it's way to depict the dire situation and hopelessness.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Watch Trainspotting Callum

As part of my 1st degree, the thesis was about the impact of health rehabilitation clinics and government health campaigns. I centred it on exactly the part of Edinburgh that the book and movie were based upon. I soon learned the futility of the folks' situations and why heroin became an almost logical choice when no prospect of employment, no hopes and sod-all to do all day.

Trainspotting tries in it's way to depict the dire situation and hopelessness.

I would but the graphic heroin use would make me feel queasy.

[Claymores]

After a serious operation I was given the medical version of heroin (it's called diamorphine). It just makes you feel sleepy and takes the cares away.

After 3 days the medics stop it as it can become so quicky addictive. I have to admit, ven after 3 days, I was upset when they stopped mainlining me as had to come back into the real world. When I was bored in hospital bed, even when in little pain I'd get them to diamorph me to pass the time/tedium

[InOne]

Ian have you seen that herion doc with the Scottish bloke in? Where he tries some weird African drug to stop it altogether. Also Black Tar Heroin: Dark End Of The Street is one of the most depressing things i've ever watched

[Crimson Dynamo]

Heroin abuse says as much about your mental and social state than anything

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by InOne

Ian have you seen that herion doc with the Scottish bloke in? Where he tries some weird African drug to stop it altogether. Also Black Tar Heroin: Dark End Of The Street is one of the most depressing things i've ever watched

Aint seen that one I'm afraid. BTW I'm thinking of going to the shops to buy something so that Claymores and InOne can talk daft drunken nonesense again late-nite on same footing

You're a bad influence!

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Heroin abuse says as much about your mental and social state than anything

Do you end-up seeing white military jumbos heading to Iceland if mainline too much heroin LT?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Aint seen that one I'm afraid. BTW I'm thinking of going to the shops to buy something so that Claymores and InOne can talk daft drunken nonesense again late-nite on same footing

You're a bad influence!

Why not eh!! lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Do you end-up seeing white military jumbos heading to Iceland if mainline too much heroin LT?

The 90s were one big needle







man

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The 90s were one big needle







man

Must have been strong sh1t that you were still seeing white military jumbos in 2010

[Lewis.]

Whoah.. Learnt a lot in this thread. Thanks for the information..

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Lewis.

Whoah.. Learnt a lot in this thread. Thanks for the information..

Nothing worth learning - it destroys your life is the quick summary

[Callum]

The documentary Black Tar Heroin was filmed from 1995-1998? So in that case if the users carried on with their junkie lifestyles chances are most of them are now dead?

Sad

[Lewis.]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Nothing worth learning - it destroys your life is the quick summary

I mean about different ways of taking it. I'm not into drugs and don't really live in a part of the country where they are too much of a problem (Cornwall). I thought, before I saw this thread, that they used to spoon to eat it or something. I know it sounds silly but it's true. Thanks InOne for giving all of this information. I makes me think a lot about people who are addicted to drugs.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Callum

The documentary Black Tar Heroin was filmed from 1995-1998? So in that case if the users carried on with their junkie lifestyles chances are most of them are now dead?

Sad

Only dead if the addiction led to dangerous criminal activity/murdered by others/overdosed.

Serious users know the limits and can survive to same ripe old age as anyone else..........it's not in itself a killer.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Callum

The documentary Black Tar Heroin was filmed from 1995-1998? So in that case if the users carried on with their junkie lifestyles chances are most of them are now dead?

Sad

I know at least 2 of them are dead.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by InOne

I know at least 2 of them are dead.

Dead by the associated activities/infection by using dirty needles?

[Callum]

Originally Posted by InOne

I know at least 2 of them are dead.

That is so sad. I know this sounds mad but if I had to try one drug I'd choose heroin. Just because I've always thought of it as the worst drug and I have a phobia of needles, it would be a way of facing my fear. Also I'm quite intrigued to know what it feels like when the fluid's inside you.

Would never try it voluntarily though.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Dead by the associated activities/infection by using dirty needles?

Well one was a Prostitute and think was murdered, she also had aids. The other guy was seriously messed up and kept trying to kill himself, in the end I think he OD'd.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Callum

That is so sad. I know this sounds mad but if I had to try one drug I'd choose heroin. Just because I've always thought of it as the worst drug and I have a phobia of needles, it would be a way of facing my fear. Also I'm quite intrigued to know what it feels like when the fluid's inside you.

Would never try it voluntarily though.

I'd imagine it would be a pretty good feeling. The closest i've come to trying it is morphine.