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Angus · 01-05-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not banning Burkha's does not equal a Muslim Country....It's barely technically a Christian Country, no religion holds that much sway in the government.

I agree, it's nothing to do with religion, but about security, as well as the negative connotations of female subjugation.

Crimson Dynamo · 01-05-2010, 02:10 PM

I would also ban hoodies in urban areas

InOne · 01-05-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ban it and send a message that women are equal to men in the UK. if you disagree then piss off back to your own country

That's the problem, the ones who seem to wear it are "British Muslim and proud innit".

Shasown · 01-05-2010, 03:04 PM

I think we are looking at it from the wrong point of view just as conkers became outlawed at some schools because of a fear of accidents, the Burkha should be banned on Health and Safety Grounds.

We already have evidence it is dangerous, if this woman had not worn a burkha she would probably be alive today.(Barring acts of god/allah)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...-accident.html

arista · 04-05-2010, 01:21 PM

Woman becomes first in Italy to be fined £430 for wearing burqa

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0mxzYjN32

Times are changing.

Lucy. · 04-05-2010, 02:43 PM

I find this such a hard matter to try and solve, I mean okay I understand free will and all that jazz but immigration to me crosses a line when we can be made to feel threatened in our own country by those we are welcoming into our society. That's my problem with immigration, it's perfectly fine until we as a country are made to alter our identity for the people coming in. Countries should have their own traits which make them unique. You don't want to visit France and find it to be exactly like Britain do you? It's the same for Britain from places like India, Saudi Arabia and all that. That's why I personally dislike the Burka. It just seems threatening to me. I think it should be banned simply because, as it's not nessercary for Religion/health benefits anything like that, there's really no reason why it's so important.

Angus · 04-05-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

I find this such a hard matter to try and solve, I mean okay I understand free will and all that jazz but immigration to me crosses a line when we can be made to feel threatened in our own country by those we are welcoming into our society. That's my problem with immigration, it's perfectly fine until we as a country are made to alter our identity for the people coming in. Countries should have their own traits which make them unique. You don't want to visit France and find it to be exactly like Britain do you? It's the same for Britain from places like India, Saudi Arabia and all that. That's why I personally dislike the Burka. It just seems threatening to me. I think it should be banned simply because, as it's not nessercary for Religion/health benefits anything like that, there's really no reason why it's so important.

It is symbolic of a medieval mindset imposed by men to subjugate women - what next, chastity belts?

InOne · 04-05-2010, 03:36 PM

Comparing the Burka to 'Hoodies' is a silly argument too. Kids wear hoodies cos they're kids. Also sometimes they are actively up to no good, so they feel the need to hide their face, cos of CCTV ect. And the Women have no reason at all to wear it, it is a symbol of opression and is an insult to the women who don't actually have a choice if they wear it or not.

Shasown · 04-05-2010, 03:51 PM

Then again maybe we should insist on all ugly women wearing them regardless of their religious belief. This would keep the Muslims happy and also keep lots of men happy.

Angus · 04-05-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Then again maybe we should insist on all ugly women wearing them regardless of their religious belief. This would keep the Muslims happy and also keep lots of men happy.

Just so long as we could equally cover up all ugly men, especially their beer bellies and builder's bums. This would keep ALL of us women happy.

InOne · 04-05-2010, 04:07 PM

We should go one step further and ban religion.

Shasown · 04-05-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

Just so long as we could equally cover up all ugly men, especially their beer bellies and builder's bums. This would keep ALL of us women happy.

Thats fine by me, no worries with my adonis like looks and greek god like physique.

Sort of set up a fashion cum ugly people police who bag and tag fuglies.

Lucy. · 04-05-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

We should go one step further and ban religion.

Yes. Because THAT would work well.

P.S. Incase it can't translate over forum - Yes I was being sarcastic :P

Shasown · 04-05-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

Yes. Because THAT would work well.

P.S. Incase it can't translate over forum - Yes I was being sarcastic :P

Then use your sarcasm markers please. That way people who dont understand the concept can at least appreciate someone using it. Same applies for irony.

InOne · 04-05-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

Yes. Because THAT would work well.

P.S. Incase it can't translate over forum - Yes I was being sarcastic :P

It would be better lol Obviously a few people may get slightly annoyed, I'm sure they'd get over it.

Lucy. · 04-05-2010, 04:24 PM

It wouldn't be better, it would be ridiculous.
You really suggest destroying something that is important to alot of people?
And a 'few' people is one hell of an understatement, religion is a huge thing in the
world you can't just 'ban' it. Seriously dude!

InOne · 04-05-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

It wouldn't be better, it would be ridiculous.
You really suggest destroying something that is important to alot of people?
And a 'few' people is one hell of an understatement, religion is a huge thing in the
world you can't just 'ban' it. Seriously dude!

Ok, Islam, Christinaity and Judaism, better? lol

Lucy. · 04-05-2010, 04:27 PM

What is wrong with those 3 in particular?

InOne · 04-05-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

What is wrong with those 3 in particular?

All their history's are written in blood, for a start.

Angus · 04-05-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Thats fine by me, no worries with my adonis like looks and greek god like physique.

Sort of set up a fashion cum ugly people police who bag and tag fuglies.

The mind boggles! How would it be decided who was ugly enough to be compulsorily covered up? I'm starting to get nervous

Lucy. · 04-05-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

The mind boggles! How would it be decided who was ugly enough to be compulsorily covered up? I'm starting to get nervous

Ahaha! Definantly! Maybe Shazy needs to develop a scale for us

Shasown · 04-05-2010, 04:34 PM

I would train the police and issue them charts, if they fall into the yes or probably group in answer to this question:

Would Shasown or myself give this person one if we hadnt had it at home for a few weeks?

Its not just about looks though because some people who you may think should fall into the 'no's have a personality that appeals.

Lucy. · 04-05-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

I would train the police and issue them charts, if they fall into the yes or probably group in answer to this question:

Would Shasown or myself give this person one if we hadnt had it at home for a few weeks?

Its not just about looks though because some people who you may think should fall into the 'no's have a personality that appeals.

What would be my answer then? :P