[Claymores]

Originally Posted by AndyJK

The only socialist party winning seats in Scotland is the SNP (6 to be exact). Labour ceased being a socialist party when leader John Smith died in 1994. You do have your own parliament which is entirely made up of Scots, so what are you complaining about? Have you not noticed it? It's in Holyrood, you know that place that cost millions of (English) tax payers money to refurbish. It just goes to show how little you know about politics, doesn't it?

Obviously you're a Celt, you hate the English and you want to be shot of us. Fair enough. The problem is, and as I said in another thread, England does not chain the Scots to be a part of the UK. You Scots have the option to get independence at every general election, but only a minority seem to want it. I wonder why.

As mentioned above - Scottish Labour is different from your English version called New Labour to appease the middle England who were a bit unsure about getting rid of the Tories in '97

If you wish to count socialists, count 6 plus 41 Scottish Labour MPs which essentially hung your Parliament. Take them out and you have your right wing public school Tory Govt. No need to fall in bed with the Lib/Dem leader who was at public school with David. (The word 'fag' from English public school thing certainly comes to mind)

At every general election we vote Scottish Labour to try to keep the Tories out of a UK Parliament. At national level we have a minority SNP govt. because we know they're socialists under the guise of SNP. At local level SNP cannot go forwards as local people vote for socialist Scottish Labour.......but SNP socialists have taken a few significant areas even over socialist Scottish Labour.

I do know a bit about politics kiddo as my 1st degree from EDI was in politics/social policy. I'm currently working for a large Scottish local authority and regularly chat with the other officials @ Hollyrood. Tell me your credentials to be able to talk utter bollox.

PS Andy - we regard Engerland as being England/Wales - same laws, same voting patterns - so I wish my socialist country to be free from England/Wales as you'd then have to call it on the geography books/maps. Maybe just call it Engerland for ease and forget the Welsh attachment.

PPS - Hollyrood was not refurbished - was built from new by Tony at a cost of millions over-budget, designed by a Spanish Architect who fortunately is dead as got open wallet by Westwinster or he's still be making adjustments! Tone's way of appeasing the 41 Scottish Labour MPs who helped put him in power in '97 by giving us limited powers.