[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by happyland

I think JJ seems to be a good judge of character and thankfully can see past Rachel's looks and see her for the vain, egotistical b!tch that she is. He does seem very frank, a trait that a lot of Aussie's seem to be able to pull off without coming over as offensive. I'm really liking him so far and I'm sorry, but I think I (like a lot of people) had Rachael summed up from day 1 and people in general do not like girls that act like her.

Why is she a bitch tho. So far not one person has given me an example apart from one tungsten she said to sunshine which was 'just her honest opinion'

so why hang her out to dry for giving her honest opinion When JJ has done nothing but express his honest opinion

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by happyland

I agree with that 100%.. She won't be able to get that into her shallow head at all, how someone who looks as cool as JJ doesn't fall at her feet and beg to be the new beautiful BB "couple"

yeah he caught her out completely. He won that part but if he's still going on and on about it, then hes going a bit far IMO

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why is she a bitch tho. So far not one person has given me an example apart from one tungsten she said to sunshine which was 'just her honest opinion'

so why hang her out to dry for giving her honest opinion When JJ has done nothing but express his honest opinion

Look everyone on here is basing most of their arguments and like/dislikes of people on their opinions. You see someone in Rachael who hasn't done enough to warrant what JJ said to her. That's fine, this is your prerogative but some of us take his side because in our opinions the way Rachael puts herself across and by that I mean things she's said (eg. why doesn't anyone fancy me it's weird) and looks she's given, is where our dislike of her comes from because I've seen girls like her before, it's more in the way they act than things they've actually done.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

yeah he caught her out completely. He won that part but if he's still going on and on about it, then hes going a bit far IMO

Yeah, it won't do him any favours

[crocs]

Well, in a way it takes one to know one. I think John James and Rachael have some similar traits, and I've noticed that I sometimes don't like the traits that I have in another people - without really realising that I'm similar. However, it doesn't always hold true. I haven't still decided on the people in the house. They all do things that I don't like but they also do nice things - some more than others.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why is she a bitch tho. So far not one person has given me an example apart from one tungsten she said to sunshine which was 'just her honest opinion'

so why hang her out to dry for giving her honest opinion When JJ has done nothing but express his honest opinion

I'm only speaking for myself (others can feel free to agree/disagree) when I say that I have come up against enough b!tchy women in my life to be able to spot one a mile away. I will stand corrected if she turns out to be a deep, caring and selfless person but I would bet my bottom dollar that the traits we are seeing in her just now (shallowness, vanity, self adoration) is all there is to her.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by crocs

Well, in a way it takes one to know one. I think John James and Rachael have some similar traits, and I've noticed that I sometimes don't like the traits that I have in another people - without really realising that I'm similar. However, it doesn't always hold true. I haven't still decided on the people in the house. They all do things that I don't like but they also do nice things - some more than others.

yeah, it 'takes one to know one'

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by crocs

Well, in a way it takes one to know one. I think John James and Rachael have some similar traits, and I've noticed that I sometimes don't like the traits that I have in another people - without really realising that I'm similar. However, it doesn't always hold true. I haven't still decided on the people in the house. They all do things that I don't like but they also do nice things - some more than others.

lol, what are you 5??

[JOSH69]

He saw through the cow from day one!.....Get her out!......If not, we got lots more funny looks coming!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

And it's the same arguement every year vicky because it happens every year!!

Nah, people moan about it happening every year.

If it were actually true, kris would not have left so early, sophie would not have won, rachel would not have won...dale would have won instead.

See where Im going with this?

Girls hate pretty girls, and vote with our privates. Funny how the only time someone I would personally consider to be a good looking male has won, was pete. Surely if what you were saying was true then

BB1: winner = Tom
BB2 winner = no idea, none were goodlooking really
BB3 winner= Alex, by a landslide. Kate would have been evicted first due to the jealous girlies.

[fruit_cake]

i thought brian was bloody hot in his day, he's got a bit fat and big headed now though.. i mean brian from BB2.. a luxury version of george michael

kate was never a bitchy wannabe, she was able to hold the respect of her peers.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

kate was never a bitchy wannabe, she was able to hold the respect of her peers.

Yeah i know this.

But according to this forum, us women vote on looks alone...kate was pretty, so according to the logic, we would all hate her

[BB_Eye]

He is picking the wrong battle and is starting to wear out his welcome.

[elliebrew]

Any Woman on here or anywhere else should hang their head's in shame if they find him attractive / sexy / nice in any shape or form.

There is nothing to like bout him

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nah, people moan about it happening every year.

If it were actually true, kris would not have left so early, sophie would not have won, rachel would not have won...dale would have won instead.

See where Im going with this?

Girls hate pretty girls, and vote with our privates. Funny how the only time someone I would personally consider to be a good looking male has won, was pete. Surely if what you were saying was true then

BB1: winner = Tom
BB2 winner = no idea, none were goodlooking really
BB3 winner= Alex, by a landslide. Kate would have been evicted first due to the jealous girlies.

to continue

BB4 Ray
BB5 Stuart (my personal choice as most attractive HM of all time but I may add I found him boring as sh1t and he wasn't my favorite)
BB6 Orange Anthony, I suppose some people could have considered him good looking, Eugene was my favorite that year but I suppose I found him attractive......................NOT

etc etc

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Any Woman on here or anywhere else should hang their head's in shame if they find him attractive / sexy / nice in any shape or form.

There is nothing to like bout him

Oh alright then cos you told me so

[fruit_cake]

i agree about stuart

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Any Woman on here or anywhere else should hang their head's in shame if they find him attractive / sexy / nice in any shape or form.

There is nothing to like bout him

who made you spokeswoman for all women-kind?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Any Woman on here or anywhere else should hang their head's in shame if they find him attractive / sexy / nice in any shape or form.

OK...personally, I dont go for his type. But there is no denying the guy is attractive.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Any Woman on here or anywhere else should hang their head's in shame if they find him attractive / sexy / nice in any shape or form.

There is nothing to like bout him

Hes goodlooking, but not at all my type.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

i thought brian was bloody hot in his day, he's got a bit fat and big headed now though.. i mean brian from BB2.. a luxury version of george michael

kate was never a bitchy wannabe, she was able to hold the respect of her peers.

Brian was brilliant soooooooooo funny. Kate is my second favorite winner, she was brilliant, that was back in my lesbian days of course cos there's no way I could have liked a pretty girl otherwise

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK...personally, I dont go for his type. But there is no denying the guy is attractive.

Physically he's ok but I would never find him attractive. He vain, obsessive, egotistical, ladish and generally horrid

so the only reason I can see that people actually like him is beause of his looks

he certainly has no redeeming personality features

[chauncey]

I don't doubt JJ despises Rach,because he sees his worst qualities in her,but he's like a black widow spider; he wants to F Rach then bite her head off after!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Physically he's ok but I would never find him attractive. He vain, obsessive, egotistical, ladish and generally horrid

so the only reason I can see that people actually like him is beause of his looks

he certainly has no redeeming personality features

Again in your opinion, If we all liked the same things we'd all be fighting over the same men. You're coming across as extremely vain yourself, with this I don't like it so all you who do are wrong attitude!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

so the only reason I can see that people actually like him is beause of his looks

Well generally that is the first point of call to if you find someone attractive or not you know.


But just because YOU cant see any reason to like him, does not mean that everyone else is blinded by his 'beauty'

Personally I like him because he has broken the stereotypical pretty boy mould...he actually has opinions and speaks up. A little harsh but still does it, he doesnt appear to care what people think about him voicing those opinions either.

I doubt I would get on with him in real life, but he is keeping things interesting. And NOT because hes pretty. Because he has personality.