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Originally Posted by jegmeister

As a big Ben fan, I think it's too early to make the kind of judgements the OP is making. I think it could go either way - he could become very manipulative or he could get more relaxed and not worry.

No, not really I think.

I am talking about the Ben I have seen, the one I an seeing now, and that's totally valid. Nothing I have said isnt based on behaviour I have watched, so this isnt about 'how it may go', it is about how I see it is.

True, I do project what I see as likely developments based on what I see as well, but he is what he is.

Originally Posted by jegmeister

However, look at it from his point of view, he's ahd Govan bitching about him behind his back ( and this was way before Ben's manipulations) and Shabby going beserk when Ben points out a few home truths and telling her troops to "avenge" her if she gets evicted.

He has 2 options. He can either fight back hard - this week get his attack in early - or risk being up and out next week..

I don't buy the ' brave attacked guy fighting back' thing at all, I am suprised others do.

He came in with a plan and he has built his power block. So far so good for him.

Originally Posted by jegmeister

If he is playing the game you're saying, I say good luck to him - he's playing it extremely well and is still remaining to be quite popular.

I am not criticising him for playing the game, quite the opposite, I have given him props for doing just that. I don't like him, but I am pretty objective about most things.

But it takes a certain type of person to play the game as well as he is doing at this point- a cold machiavellian manipulator who owes his loyalty to no one but those he can use in order to win.

This is Ben.