[MrWong]

Originally Posted by starry

They didn't show that on the video on the official website, no doubt it won't be shown on the HLs.

Well to be fair the row did go on for atleast 2 hours and Sunshine was tucked up in bed with Corin totally oblivious.

[starry]

Yeh but still look at that video seems pro-Ben to me, it's just Shabby saying she doesn't want to talk and Ben looking calm. Not really any interesting points made. And Ben spews alot of bitching about Sunshine in the house, as does his sidekick Mario. It would nice to have something the other way for a change.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Anyone record the argument, the full argument?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by starry

Yeh but still look at that video seems pro-Ben to me, it's just Shabby saying she doesn't want to talk and Ben looking calm. Not really any interesting points made. And Ben spews alot of bitching about Sunshine in the house, as does his sidekick Mario. It would nice to have something the other way for a change.

Oh i totally agree, they will spin this in Ben's favour just like last week when he was the instigator in both of the rows with Shabby and Sunshine, just before noms.

Ben's well aware that his little drips of poison has the effect of causing sh!t, that's why he does it. Painting targets on other peoples backs so that come nominations he'll be left alone.

He's well aware of what he is doing and does it deliberately but feigns innocence when caught out and puts on the 'bumbling baffoon' act.

[MojoNixon]

Shabby, Govan & JJ.

[BJ]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Govan.....couldnt keep his big mouth shut.JJ shouldnt have told gollom but I think he considers him a friend.However Ben has warned JJ of what he is capable of...maybe he just didnt believe he would do such a thing or was testing him!!... Gollom knew that by telling Shabby and her crew that it would all kick off.Gollum does not like Ben cos ben is onto him....he did it deliberatly.

JJ knew Govan would tell the girls and it would all kick off. He's the biggest gameplayer. Ben is too naive and Shabby loves being able to play victim

[Lostie!]

Ben. He's too wrapped up in "the game", and he's now caused a meltdown.

And a shout out for Govan, who basically masterminded the blow-up, knowing precisely what his actions would result in.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by BJ

JJ knew Govan would tell the girls and it would all kick off. He's the biggest gameplayer. Ben is too naive and Shabby loves being able to play victim

Shabby didn't have to play the victim, she was the victim in last nights row. I hate JJ but there's noway he dropped Ben in the sh!t deliberately.

Ben dropped himself in it by attempting to influence JJ to dislike Shabby by stirring about her, due to it being noms today.

It backfired on Ben, simple as.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by JellyFantastic

Ben. He's too wrapped up in "the game", and he's now caused a meltdown.

Damn straight! He's constantly analysing the game in his desperation not to be nominated.

[Jords]

Bump, now most of you have seen whats gone on because of the HL's.

[Stacey.]

Govan didn't do anything for **** sake!

it was Ben in fairness.

[bettiepage]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

Govan didn't do anything for **** sake!

it was Ben in fairness.

yeah Stacey...... Govan did nothing....

[troy4783]

This forum is crazy it with out a doubt bens fault so what if govan told shabby she had a right to know

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by bettiepage

yeah Stacey...... Govan did nothing....

he actually didn't though.

people already dislike him so pick up on any little thing he does wrong.

[calyman]

Ben foolishly believed he was putting forward a point to put in perspective why JJ was hassling him about the suasage rolls ffs. JJ for his own nasty reasons passed on this non issue of a comment to the rancid Govan, who in turn couldn't get off his lazy ass quick enough to gloat over this insignificant comment to chippy shabby who then blew it all out of proportion. She has the gall to call Ben over making comments about her, while reserving the right to drone on and on about Ben behind his back with her poisonous drivel.

She completely lost the arguemtn though, despite being so gobby and bullying, Ben cleverly let her rant and rage over what is in real terms a matter of no importance. Even she knew she'd been outmanouvered by Ben and that is what has really annoyed her. The nasty comments she made after the argument about anyone who went to comfort Ben really shows how much she understood that she lost any initiative and has shown herself in a really nasty and vindictive light. Her "friends" don't come out of it too well also, though they of course can't even grasp that little thing.

Well done Ben, you played a blinder tonight.

[Patrick]

Sunshine.

Her *****ing sh*t dancing and murdering Bad Romance put everyone in a bad mood.

[lynz]

Shabby needed more airtime so practiced more of her dramatics - making a mountain out of a molehill.

[Rachelll]

Josie

[GiRTh]

Govan. It was a strange bit of sh(t stirring considering he's wants to leave.

[King Gizzard]

The argument wouldn't of happened if it wasnt for Govan spreading it.

All parties were to blame though

[BB_Eye]

After watching the HL show, I think JJ has a lot to answer for. He was an even bigger shitstirrer than Govan.

[Lee.]

I voted for Govan.. There was absolutely no need for him to tell Shabby what had been said. If there was sh!t going to happen between Ben/Shabby/JJ over the whole situation, it probably would have happened at some point anyway.. Govan did not need to get involved. He just likes a drama!

[o8kawasaki89]

Govan, he sh*t stirs! he goes on about people minding their own business but he is always in every arguement! And using it to start trouble!

[letmein]

Ben should keep his putrid mouth shut!

[Angus]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Well Govan is beause he told Shabby.

However Ben was in the wrong first for saying stuff to JJ.

So Shabby and her little gang can slag anyone they like off behind their backs, but that is a luxury reserved just for them is it? Ben is entitled to his opinion which happens to be correct. The reason Shabby cannot stand Ben is that he saw right through her from day one, that she is what she is, a bloody drama queen (in all senses of the word), and about as phoney and fake as they come.

Watch the next few days as she and her puppy dog Caoimhe attempt to keep her in with their faux romance.