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Locke. · 27-06-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

He has to play there. It's fairly obvious to us all, right? But apparently it hasn't always worked when England have tried it before.

It never works. Maybe it worked against Slovenia, I don't know because I didn't see that game, but whenever I've seen him play on the left it hasn't worked.

At Liverpool he mainly plays just off of Torres, but can also play in the center of midfield or on the right. I've never seen him played on the left for us.

Rooney should have been dropped from the squad after the first 3 games, and Gerrard should have been moved to play just off of Defoe, with either Joe Cole playing on the left.

Nemo123 · 27-06-2010, 06:47 PM

If the likes of Chelsea had to buy domestic players only that could only be good for the national side.

GiRTh · 27-06-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Just hear the argentina mEXICO GAME, THE COMMENTATOr say, only 5 players from each side, played last WC. Meaning each team got 6 new players. Thats the problem with England, they always bring back the same ol boring players!

Young teams hardly ever win the World cup. Look at the last few winners the average age was about 28 or 29.

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke.

I thought Villa played up front with Torres?

Spain star David Villa will happily play out of position if it secures him a starting role at the World Cup.

Coach Vicente del Bosque has two star strikers in 28-year-old Villa and Liverpool’s Fernando Torres, but could opt to play with only one man up front.

And Villa, who left Valencia for Barcelona last month, said: “If I play alone up front, then I tend to play central.

“But if there is another striker, I don’t mind shifting to one win.”

Link

http://www.world-cup-news.com/catego...-201006030022/

See, no excuses. A footballer is a footballer! English players have to play one position or they are lost. Same with Rooney! I sactually think lampard is more adaptable than the rest.

Nemo123 · 27-06-2010, 06:52 PM

The top 4 in England are absolutely saturated with foreign players. I think it's probably worse than anywhere else.

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Young teams hardly ever win the World cup. Look at the last few winners the average age was about 28 or 29.

Its not a matter of young. Its a matter of, I have seen these guys ewhat they can do, in 2 world cup, they ahvent gotten it done. Lets get some other players. Thats whaT MOST teams do. If you dont, usually, you will do more of the same. Especially with players that have reach their potential. They arent gonna get any better.

GiRTh · 27-06-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Girth, USA basketball at the olympics, since pros were allowed:

1992 : 1st
1996 : 1st
2000: 1st
2004: 3rd
2008: 1st

Yeah, they consistently underperformed alright!

there were a number of years where they under performed in major tournaments.

From the Wiki page

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However, American dominance has lessened in recent years. Facing increased competition, the USA failed to win a medal at the 2002 World Championship, finishing sixth. The 2004 Summer Olympic team lost three games on its way to a bronze medal, a record that represented more losses in a single year than the country's Olympic teams had suffered in all previous Olympiads combined.

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

If Lampard didn't have the ability to strike the ball so well from 20 yards then he wouldn't score the goals. I dont see you argument. Its like saying that a striker only scores so often because he gets lots of chance. Yes, but he still has to hit the target and score the goal. Lampard is one of the most clinical players from around 20 yards and just about any team in the world would love to have a player was capable of doing what he does as often as he does.

You can only speculate on how well Gerrard would do but the truth is most of the top managers would trade just about any player they have and swap him with Gerrard.

Yeah OK! Keep telling yourself that!

GiRTh · 27-06-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Yeah OK! Keep telling yourself that!

20 goals a season says it for me.

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 06:55 PM

Argentina baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nemo123 · 27-06-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Argentina baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mile offside

Locke. · 27-06-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Spain star David Villa will happily play out of position if it secures him a starting role at the World Cup.

Coach Vicente del Bosque has two star strikers in 28-year-old Villa and Liverpool’s Fernando Torres, but could opt to play with only one man up front.

And Villa, who left Valencia for Barcelona last month, said: “If I play alone up front, then I tend to play central.

“But if there is another striker, I don’t mind shifting to one win.”

Link

http://www.world-cup-news.com/catego...-201006030022/

See, no excuses. A footballer is a footballer! English players have to play one position or they are lost. Same with Rooney! I sactually think lampard is more adaptable than the rest.

He started against Switzerland up front though because Torres didn't come on until late on in the game. And in the last game against Chile he played up front with Torres. Not sure about the Honduras game didn't watch it

GiRTh · 27-06-2010, 06:56 PM

They cant reverse it surely.

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

20 goals a season says it for me.

Oh yeah!

Lampard 20 goals in the leaugue. 0 goals in the WC

Klose 3 goals in the league, 3 goals in the WC!

Good luck with that!

GiRTh · 27-06-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Oh yeah!

Lampard 20 goals in the leaugue. 0 goals in the WC

Klose 3 goals in the league, 3 goals in the WC!

Good luck with that!

20 goals for five straight seasons. Get it right. Do you think he gets that many by accident?

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke.

He started against Switzerland up front though because Torres didn't come on until late on in the game. And in the last game against Chile he played up front with Torres. Not sure about the Honduras game didn't watch it

His best game was against Honduras, and he played attacking Midfield, on the left.

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

20 goals for five straight seasons. Get it right. Do you think he gets that many by accident?

And how many goals he scored last WC? Again, My point was, his team iat Chelsea, and the other players, are the reason he scores all those goals. At the WC, with the boring ass, unimaginative English teams, it all dissapears. SO the fact that he scores all those goals for chelsea, just proves my point"

GiRTh · 27-06-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

And how many goals he scored last WC? Again, My point was, his team iat Chelsea, and the other players, are the reason he scores all those goals. At the WC, with the boring ass, unimaginative English teams, it all dissapears. SO the fact that he scores all those goals for chelsea, just proves my point"

I agree with that but 20 goals a season is damned impressive.

I take it you dont rate Lampard but the statistics say he's a damned fine player

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

I agree with that.

Aned he only scored 20 + goals in the league last year! So I dont know what the hell youre talking about 5 years in a row!

GiRTh · 27-06-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Aned he only scored 20 + goals in the league last year! So I dont know what the hell youre talking about 5 years in a row!

Frank Lampard

Check out the stats at the bottom. I said 20 goals in the season not the league.

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

I agree with that but 20 goals a season is damned impressive.

I take it you dont rate Lampard but the statistics say he's a damned fine player

I rate him as a solid role player, for Chelse. NOthing more. And I dont see why he has the sole right on that spot for england, for so many years! I sont think he is that great. He is solid. Thats it!

Wildcat! · 27-06-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

there were a number of years where they under performed in major tournaments.

From the Wiki page

Yeah, it was one year! All of that happened one year!!!! Out of 20. They ahve won every other olympics and Worlkd championships!

Why the hell am I even comparing them to the England team!

LOL!