[vesavius]

and "I manipulate my world... I pull the strings of others"


Excellent Ben quotes from LF today, and yet a lot of you guys don't get what a political game playing user he is.


If he actually had a brain he would be scary.

[BB_Eye]

Ben was honest with the viewers right from the very start. The mannequins are his real friends.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Ben was honest with the viewers right from the very start. The mannequins are his real friends.

this

[JustSkipIt]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Ben was honest with the viewers right from the very start. The mannequins are his real friends.

That was the moment I realised I would either really like him, or he would turn out to be a psychotic killer

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Ben was honest with the viewers right from the very start. The mannequins are his real friends.

lol "what you lack in friends you can make up for in mannequins...'?

Says it all. Dosent sound like he is capable of making real connections in the real world either much.

He is actually incapable of forming real friendships I think by watching him tonight start to turn on Mario... Everyone is to be used and discarded as required, but everyone will have smoke blown up their arses to groom them and keep them sweet.

Can't believe the fools that have been sucked in by him heh.

[rusticgal]

I like Ben but it does concern me the amount of times he stresses that when he has supported someone he cannot understand why they then dont support him.
Its like he buys their friendship when in fact he needs to earn it.

Still love him though...

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I like Ben but it does concern me the amount of times he stresses that when he has supported someone he cannot understand why they then dont support him.
Its like he buys their friendship when in fact he needs to earn it.

Still love him though...

The more you see of him the more you will see what he is like.

Even Mario is drifting away to spend more time with others and Dave tonight was telling him to **** and stop his constant repetitive grooming in his way.

he is outright creepy in the way he tries to indoctrinate people through repetition in order to try and establish his own reality as the 'truth'.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The more you see of him the more you will see what he is like.

Even Mario is drifting away to spend more time with others and Dave tonight was telling him to **** and stop his constant repetitive grooming in his way.

he is outright creepy in the way he tried to indoctrinate people through repetition in order to try and establish his own reality as the 'truth'.

everytime you write i really think your watching a different show
it must be driving you mad he's geting more popular

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

everytime you write i really think your watching a different show
it must be driving you mad he's geting more popular

Mad? nah, I have said repeatedly that he is good for the house, no matter what I think of him. I argued for him to not go on saturday.

Ofc, you might have understood that if you stopped to read and understand what was being said instead of your constant repetition in an effort to indoctrinate others to your false rea...

wait a sec..

I see why you like him now.

[jegmeister]

Originally Posted by vesavius

lol "what you lack in friends you can make up for in mannequins...'?

Says it all. Dosent sound like he is capable of making real connections in the real world either much.

He is actually incapable of forming real friendships I think by watching him tonight start to turn on Mario... Everyone is to be used and discarded as required, but everyone will have smoke blown up their arses to groom them and keep them sweet.

Can't believe the fools that have been sucked in by him heh.

but he isn't turning on Mario at all - has he said he hates Mario, distrusts him - no - because he likes him.

These so-called "examples" just don't exist.

And as for Josie - fake tears at Govan's exit, playing the innocent country bumpkin, bullying Sunshine over the crisps - just generally an unpleasant person

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

but he isn't turning on Mario at all - has he said he hates Mario, distrusts him - no - because he likes him.

These so-called "examples" just don't exist.

*edited for irrelevance to the topic*

Ben; “Everyone are lovely people but apart from you, and I’m not saying this out of flattery, there’s nobody who I particularly enjoy company from all the time.”

“I love Mario, he’s one of my best friends but he’s not witty or funny… He’s the sweetest person in the world, but can you remember anything he’s actually said?”


lol of course he is turning on Mario, one step at a time... he is too much of a political animal to burn all bridges right off.

The group is breaking First Sunshine and now Mario... No wonder JJ has finally cut the cord, and even Dave has openly questioned his trustworthyness.

I have no idea why people support Ben when he has again and again demonstrated his back biting and willingness to betray his 'friends' at the drop of a hat. How many examples of the same behaviour before he becomes indefensable?

[JustSkipIt]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Ben; “...“I love Mario, he’s one of my best friends but he’s not witty or funny… He’s the sweetest person in the world, but can you remember anything he’s actually said?”

As an example, this doesn't really work - in no way does it suggest he is turning on Maria, just that he doesn't much engage him in conversation - and from what I've seen he doesn't, he just lies around lapping up everything Ben says. I would find that tedious after a while too.

In fairness, also from what I've seen, Ben doesn't give him much of a chance to get a word in edgeways - and I thought Dave was hilarious on yesterday evening's live feed when he was telling Ben that he moans all the time

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by vesavius

lol "what you lack in friends you can make up for in mannequins...'?

Says it all. Dosent sound like he is capable of making real connections in the real world either much.

He is actually incapable of forming real friendships I think by watching him tonight start to turn on Mario... Everyone is to be used and discarded as required, but everyone will have smoke blown up their arses to groom them and keep them sweet.

Can't believe the fools that have been sucked in by him heh.

LOL,Turn on Mario,lol,for saying he is not witty?yeah right if it suits you.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by kazanne

LOL,Turn on Mario,lol,for saying he is not witty?yeah right if it suits you.

Back biting his 'friends' is Ben's normal state, I am not suprised you find it business as usual.

Look at the quote above clearly and with objectivity... if you can't see Ben grooming Dave to move in as his replacment, now that Mario is blatantly moving away from Ben (and JJ has already gone), righthand henchman in that you arnt seeing anything.

Forever the politician.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by JustSkipIt

As an example, this doesn't really work - in no way does it suggest he is turning on Maria, just that he doesn't much engage him in conversation - and from what I've seen he doesn't, he just lies around lapping up everything Ben says. I would find that tedious after a while too.

lol of course it does... it's the first time Ben has openly bitched about Mario and the significance of that is massive for their clique. Ben does nothing socially accidently (despite his bumbling toff routine that has so many of the users here fooled) and every move has a purpose.

He is the machiavellian politician through and through, but one that isnt bright enough to avoid getting caught.

Originally Posted by JustSkipIt

n fairness, also from what I've seen, Ben doesn't give him much of a chance to get a word in edgeways - and I thought Dave was hilarious on yesterday evening's live feed when he was telling Ben that he moans all the time

Yeah, he came across as jokey, but jokes often mask a serious messgae.

He was obviously telling Ben to stop the repetitive drumming away at the same old view points, which he does in an effort to drive his point home and establish his version of reality as 'true'.

In short, theres no longer anyone in the house that wants to listen to his constant bleating attempts at game playing.

[JEJ]

I'd like to see the back of the self obsessed twit, I really thought he might become more interesting when he wasn't evicted but I was wrong. Dave went up in my estimation by excusing himself from more of Ben's navel gazing so's not to be rude by being absent/late for Steve's party.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by JEJ

I'd like to see the back of the self obsessed twit, I really thought he might become more interesting when he wasn't evicted but I was wrong. Dave went up in my estimation by excusing himself from more of Ben's navel gazing so's not to be rude by being absent/late for Steve's party.

Mine too, Dave at least has some ethics.

I would still like him to go this week tho.