[Livia]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

i think you're naive, they always start like that livia

I think YOU'RE naive if you think a bloke having a good shout is going to lead to a black eye. Maybe you should choose your men more carefully.

Like I said before, I haven't lived under a rock, I've been around the block, believe me. Because I don't agree that a bloke who has a bit of a shout is necessarily going to end up thumping a woman, I'm naive?? I'm sick of the attitude that lumps all men into the same group. In fact, both personally and professionally, I've always had MUCH more trouble with women than I ever have with men. Some women work really hard at being cruel in my opinion. At the other end of the scale is the doormat. Most women come somewhere in the middle. Same with men. Some are bullies, some are doormats and the majority are somewhere in the middle.

I detest Nathan. But I uphold he was right in this case.