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Originally Posted by StGeorge

I think you need to read the rest of my post as although that definition can be used as you are doing, hence why i put it, its generally accepted that the not being noticed bit describes those that are getting away with stuff but not by the public. The other type of HM that falls into this category are your Steves and Rachels who are deemed as just being boring. Josie isnt one of those....she does bitch and sh1tstir but has been getting away with it.

Now even you must be able to recognise that fact?

I recognise the fact that you are scrabbling against the evidence that you yourself foolishly used

call her a bitch and **** stirrer, sure, we can debate that, but you are muddying the waters by the misuse of established terms.