[Beso]

Originally Posted by vesavius

We have covered this :/

She isolated herself from the entire house by own actions and attitude.

Whay part of her have you seen or heard her say since has convinced you otherwise?

Seriously, when your backing such an obvious self serving spiteful snake as Cahfjfgygyh in such an obvious situation you know you are are well off the path. You have let your hate for Josie over what you perceived initially paint yourself into a corner here, refusing to change your perspective as more and more of her true nature has been revealed. You know what though, it's ok to say 'hey i was wrong' and just move on, you wouldnt get the piss taken, you would actually get respect.

Anyhow, whatever, she is gone (woot!) and Josie is massively popular with the HMs and still bookies and has 4 weeks to flourish.

to be fair, the isolation was finalised by josie going to every single other housemate to tell them all about how keeva had humiliated and betrayed her.

Keeva isolating herself from them is keevas business, however josie trying to isolate her from them is none of their business. It was downright dirty.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by parmnion

to be fair, the isolation was finalised by josie going to every single other housemate to tell them all about how keeva had humiliated and betrayed her.

Keeva isolating herself from them is keevas business, however josie trying to isolate her from them is none of their business. It was downright dirty.

Damn straight!

[rapunza1977]

Has everyone forgotten the venom which was being spewed from KEEEVA's mouth after Shabby departure, her hatred of Ife, Nathan, the fact she called Corin rough and Sunshine got it in the neck not to mention Dave hatred.............

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

Has everyone forgotten the venom which was being spewed from KEEEVA's mouth after Shabby departure, her hatred of Ife, Nathan, the fact she called Corin rough and Sunshine got it in the neck not to mention Dave hatred.............

I agreed with all Keeva said ! she was spot on

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

Has everyone forgotten the venom which was being spewed from KEEEVA's mouth after Shabby departure, her hatred of Ife, Nathan, the fact she called Corin rough and Sunshine got it in the neck not to mention Dave hatred.............

Nope, Caoimhe was a bitch, so is Josie.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by MrWong

It's the 'more and more of Josie's true nature' that's changed my perspective of Josie. Nothing to do with Caoimhe.

Josie's a manipulative, jealous, lying nightmare.

As for the last bit i highlighted... Oh noes!!! Nobody respects me on an internet forum, my life is in tatters now.

exactly, this is what other posters need to understand, it's not the keeva thing or the jj thing that people dislike about josie, it's the josie thing!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Josie now live feed ,laid in bed with Andrew ,then chatty with Ben but JJ wasnt allowed to even talk to Keeva ,she is one nasty sly nasty bitch

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agreed with all Keeva said ! she was spot on

..and you likely agree with the larged tooth one that she is too good for that show ?

[ange7]

Originally Posted by vesavius

'To be fair'?

When have you been fair in this situation? Don't make me laugh. Half of your posts are full of blind hate, no matter what the truth is, and the other half have tried to rip down other FMs with personal jibes.

Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement.

cahfhgfygjgh left the house, after a long ongoing unhappiness with the program in general and the knowledge she had alienated the whole house by her own actions and attitue.


But, like I say, it's over now for me as a siutation. Josie is doing fantasically and has 4 weeks clear to do even better.

"Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement."
not true Josie went around rubbishing Keeva for 2 days while Keeva was clueless about what her problem was. Keeva on the other hand was not rubbishing Josie. Josie played the victim and solicited sympathy from all. Her attempts at shame or guilt for her actions were fake and false given that within seconds she was back at it with her relentless hate campaign. Horrible Josie.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by ange7

"Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement."

Yep.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ange7

"Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement."
not true Josie went around rubbishing Keeva for 2 days while Keeva was clueless about what her problem was. Keeva on the other hand was not rubbishing Josie. Josie played the victim and solicited sympathy from all. Her attempts at shame or guilt for her actions were fake and false given that within seconds she was back at it with her relentless hate campaign. Horrible Josie.

True story.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

..and you likely agree with the larged tooth one that she is too good for that show ?

Keeva did nothing wrong. It was some harmless fun that Josie milked to feed her sympathy addiction. They way she kept at it was amazing. Even after patching it up with Keeva she was back on it with Ben within minutes, tearing strips off Keeva. All for what? Some nothing event that meant nothing and was a simple laugh.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agreed with all Keeva said ! she was spot on

Well I agree with Josie....Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up and she was flaunting her closeness to JJ to be a cow...there is an unwritten rule between friends, whether you like it or not, and that's if your girl likes someone, you dont put the moves on them, its bad form...and Josie saw it as Caiomhe putting the moves on JJ with her flirting. Josie told her she had her back after Shabby left, and I imagine expected some kind of loyalty in return. She played with Shabby too, kissing her neck, being very physical with her, and dont tell me she didnt know it would wreck the girl's head? I would fully expect a bloke to think I was coming on to him if I kissed his neck and was physical with him at every given opportunity!

Do I think Caiomhe actually wanted anything to happen with JJ? No. Do I think she enjoys every bit of attention she gets, whether it be from men or women? Yes. She has an ego, like we all do.

Do I think Josie needed to talk to so many people about her jealousy? Probably not, it's not how I would handle the situation, but watching the house from the outside it seems that all the housemates seek validation from one or many on any given event, be it their relationships within the house or their participation in tasks, or something as simple as how their clothes/make up look.

caiomhe leaving was a culmination of events, topped off with Josie pointing out stuff about her actions with JJ....and if Caiomhe did not think for one minute that there might be something in what was said, she wouldnt have gone...it's because she was concerned for her relationship that she finally left...and like I've said, if she really thought there was no cause for concern then she wouldnt have.

She isolated herself ultimately because she didnt mix, she preferred to be close within a smaller group.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

Well I agree with Josie....Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up and she was flaunting her closeness to JJ to be a cow...there is an unwritten rule between friends, whether you like it or not, and that's if your girl likes someone, you dont put the moves on them, its bad form...and Josie saw it as Caiomhe putting the moves on JJ with her flirting. Josie told her she had her back after Shabby left, and I imagine expected some kind of loyalty in return. She played with Shabby too, kissing her neck, being very physical with her, and dont tell me she didnt know it would wreck the girl's head? I would fully expect a bloke to think I was coming on to him if I kissed his neck and was physical with him at every given opportunity!

Do I think Caiomhe actually wanted anything to happen with JJ? No. Do I think she enjoys every bit of attention she gets, whether it be from men or women? Yes. She has an ego, like we all do.

Do I think Josie needed to talk to so many people about her jealousy? Probably not, it's not how I would handle the situation, but watching the house from the outside it seems that all the housemates seek validation from one or many on any given event, be it their relationships within the house or their participation in tasks, or something as simple as how their clothes/make up look.

caiomhe leaving was a culmination of events, topped off with Josie pointing out stuff about her actions with JJ....and if Caiomhe did not think for one minute that there might be something in what was said, she wouldnt have gone...it's because she was concerned for her relationship that she finally left...and like I've said, if she really thought there was no cause for concern then she wouldnt have.

She isolated herself ultimately because she didnt mix, she preferred to be close within a smaller group.

"Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up"
what??!!?? says Josie.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by ange7

"Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up"
what??!!?? says Josie.

Says anybody with eyes and ears!

If she's so innocent why was she worried about her relationship? Silly cow realised that she may be upsetting her BF with her silly games.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

Well I agree with Josie....Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up and she was flaunting her closeness to JJ to be a cow...there is an unwritten rule between friends, whether you like it or not, and that's if your girl likes someone, you dont put the moves on them, its bad form...and Josie saw it as Caiomhe putting the moves on JJ with her flirting. Josie told her she had her back after Shabby left, and I imagine expected some kind of loyalty in return. She played with Shabby too, kissing her neck, being very physical with her, and dont tell me she didnt know it would wreck the girl's head? I would fully expect a bloke to think I was coming on to him if I kissed his neck and was physical with him at every given opportunity!

Do I think Caiomhe actually wanted anything to happen with JJ? No. Do I think she enjoys every bit of attention she gets, whether it be from men or women? Yes. She has an ego, like we all do.

Do I think Josie needed to talk to so many people about her jealousy? Probably not, it's not how I would handle the situation, but watching the house from the outside it seems that all the housemates seek validation from one or many on any given event, be it their relationships within the house or their participation in tasks, or something as simple as how their clothes/make up look.

caiomhe leaving was a culmination of events, topped off with Josie pointing out stuff about her actions with JJ....and if Caiomhe did not think for one minute that there might be something in what was said, she wouldnt have gone...it's because she was concerned for her relationship that she finally left...and like I've said, if she really thought there was no cause for concern then she wouldnt have.

She isolated herself ultimately because she didnt mix, she preferred to be close within a smaller group.

the thing is though, even if keeva was making a move, which due to her being in love with someone on the outside she clearly wasn't, josie never actually told keeva she had strong feelings for him, yes she said he was hot in a football top, or that she liked him one day but hated him the next..all the rest was left up to ife's assumptions, which we all know are a complete waste of time.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

the thing is though, even if keeva was making a move, which due to her being in love with someone on the outside she clearly wasn't, josie never actually told keeva she had strong feelings for him, yes she said he was hot in a football top, or that she liked him one day but hated him the next..all the rest was left up to ife's assumptions, which we all know are a complete waste of time.

Give over, it's blatant to ANYONE watching that Josie wants the guy...are you telling me that 4 million viewers know, the rest of the house knows, and Caiomhe didnt even though they spent so much time together?

[charmingmissc]

the house mates live with her 24/7.

surely they know her better than anyone.

and they all seem to support her.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by MrWong

True story.

HOLD ON? So...........KEEEEEEEVA has not rubbished anyone in that house? She bitched left right and ceentre in that house - she tried isolating Sunshine / Nathan / Corin / she would given half the chance and Ife ?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

Give over, it's blatant to ANYONE watching that Josie wants the guy...are you telling me that 4 million viewers know, the rest of the house knows, and Caiomhe didnt even though they spent so much time together?

even if keeva did, she never made a move on him, you can't go around blaming keeva for josies insecurities. Who the hell does josie think she is? She meets 13 complete strangers, decides she likes one of them, yet won't tell him or anyone else how she truely feels, then decides or assumes that he should be off limits to everyone else..if that is not(to get back to the topic) bunny boiling traits I don't know what the hell is.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

the house mates live with her 24/7.

surely they know her better than anyone.

and they all seem to support her.

exactly

[ange7]

Back on topic.
Josie seems to always have a 2 way bet. She'll talk of her shame and guilt about how she treated Keeva but within seconds she'll again rubbish her to anyone that will dole out the sympathy. Can stand how she can act the victim WHILE on the attack herself.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

even if keeva did, she never made a move on him, you can't go around blaming keeva for josies insecurities. Who the hell does josie think she is? She meets 13 complete strangers, decides she likes one of them, yet won't tell him or anyone else how she truely feels, then decides or assumes that he should be off limits to everyone else..if that is not(to get back to the topic) bunny boiling traits I don't know what the hell is.

I'm not blaming Caiomhe for her insecurities, I'm saying that Josie obviously saw her as being disloyal about an emotional subject.

Can you entirely blame Josie for her leaving, even though she never integrated fully within the house from day one, and had issues with being there ever since the argument with Ife?

Can you blame Josie for Caiomhe not being very popular within the house, even tough Caiomhe bitched and moaned and had many seperate issues with people way before this latest thing with JJ and Josie? Becuase that what I;ve been reading here....Josie copping the entire blame for Caiomhe leaving, and getting her own way... I dont think a single person IN THAT HOUSE sees it that way and they're all living together...it drives me nuts that people just watching think they know better.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by ange7

Back on topic.
Josie seems to always have a 2 way bet. She'll talk of her shame and guilt about how she treated Keeva but within seconds she'll again rubbish her to anyone that will dole out the sympathy. Can stand how she can act the victim WHILE on the attack herself.

you have her spot on imo, last week or so i've noticed josie only seems to talk about josie, I'd love to see a task where they are asked questions about the other housemates outside life, see how well she would get on with that1 I predict a fail if it ever comes to fruition.

[InOne]

Josie let the house get the better of her really. No way would she have reacted like that a few weeks ago. Josie knew full and well JJ was not interested in her and they've never had a sexual connection. Josie should just have left it really. Hope she picks up again.