[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by MrWong

What is this weird stance people take where effectively they reason that because Caoimhe was a bitch that means Josie hasn't been.

Yes Caoimhe was a bitch to Sunshine, the others you mention i don't agree with, though she has bitched about her dislike of them but hasn't done much more than that.

Josie has also been a bitch. She's quite the little liar too, something that riles me in a hm. Her OTT reaction to Caoimhe's flirting shocked me tbh as i didn't think she was capable of being such a manipulative cowbag.

At no point have I actually BACKED Josie, my main issue is with Caoimhe. She is like the playground bully, nasty and you can imagine even worse if she has her wolfpack with her. Josie is a bit mental, but, her main issue with iwth Caoimhe. Josie has not bitched about anyway in that house, Caoimhe has with everyone. She has issues with everyone and thought she was better than everyone. I actually do beleive she did this to rile Josie knowing it Josie would snap, which she did. I just think Caoimhe was really horrid hearted

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I spout it about the hm's not the fm's, which is what you continue to do.

So... Back to the topic i guess

what i saw in josie to make me put my bet on her on opening night was a fun loving girl with no boundaries, she seemed fun to be around which i guess she still is.

what I have come to realise with josie is, she doesn't set out any boundaries but by heck you know you have hit one when she turns at the flick off a switch, take her original fall out with jj it was ok with both of them giving out light hearted digs, but then came the 96 chins comment from jj when he reacted to something she said that was below the belt...boundary hit...what ensued was josie undermining jj to everyone who would listen to her at the time.


This was further emphasised with keeva, when keeva started fooling around with jj as mates do...boundary hit....Josie simply tries to be coool by coming across as the fun girl without a care in the world when infact she is the complete opposite. It's all ok if it's josies rules, cross them and hit a boundary and there is hell to pay, it's this part of her personality that i can't stand at the moment as it has an impact, which is so unfair on the people who have crossed the boundary.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

At no point have I actually BACKED Josie, my main issue is with Caoimhe. She is like the playground bully, nasty and you can imagine even worse if she has her wolfpack with her. Josie is a bit mental, but, her main issue with iwth Caoimhe. Josie has not bitched about anyway in that house, Caoimhe has with everyone. She has issues with everyone and thought she was better than everyone. I actually do beleive she did this to rile Josie knowing it Josie would snap, which she did. I just think Caoimhe was really horrid hearted

I disagree, you have painted keeva as being a ring leader when infact she is nothing more than a follower.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by MrWong

She didn't seek him out for sympathy though did she?

Nah most of the time she just wanted a good bitch.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

At no point have I actually BACKED Josie, my main issue is with Caoimhe. She is like the playground bully, nasty and you can imagine even worse if she has her wolfpack with her. Josie is a bit mental, but, her main issue with iwth Caoimhe. Josie has not bitched about anyway in that house, Caoimhe has with everyone. She has issues with everyone and thought she was better than everyone. I actually do beleive she did this to rile Josie knowing it Josie would snap, which she did. I just think Caoimhe was really horrid hearted

Josie bitches about everyone - especially if she perceives they pose any threat to her imagined relationsip with JJ!

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

what i saw ion josie to make me put my bet on her on opening night was a fun loving girl with no boundaries, she seemed fun to be around which i guess she still is.

what I have come to realise with josie is, she doesn't set out any boundaries you know you have hit one when she turns at the flick off a switch, take her original fall out with jj it was ok with both of them giving out light hearted digs, but then came the 96 chins comment from jj when he reacted to something she said that was below the belt...boundary hit...what ensued was josie undermining jj to everyone who would listen to her at the time.


This was further emphasised with keeva, when keeva started fooling around with jj as mates do...boundary hit....Josie simply tries to be coool by coming across as the fun girl without a care in the world when infact she is the complete opposite. It's all ok if it's josies rules, cross them and hit a boundary and there is hell to pay, it's this part of her personality that i can't stand at the moment as it has an impact, which is so unfair on the people who have crossed the boundary.

EVERYONE has boundaries...if they didnt people would just walk all over them....which in this case it seems Josie felt Caiomhe was trying to do, or take a liberty with her loyalty at least.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I disagree, you have painted keeva as being a ring leader when infact she is nothing more than a follower.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm a follower to whom? Some of the nasty things she said where after her sidekick walked?


Plus, she has a typical narcassictic attitude - very self absorbed she never really formed any alliances in there which I think is a reflection of her character, so not think she can, even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week.......then she started latchuing on to others, not a loyal character either as we can see with Shabby ...................... not much going for her actually in terms of personality ............. however cannot be sure as she could be different in the outside world however we have only seen her boyfriend and mother, has she had any friends speaking up for her? I am not sure

[Angus]

Originally Posted by parmnion

what i saw ion josie to make me put my bet on her on opening night was a fun loving girl with no boundaries, she seemed fun to be around which i guess she still is.

what I have come to realise with josie is, she doesn't set out any boundaries you know you have hit one when she turns at the flick off a switch, take her original fall out with jj it was ok with both of them giving out light hearted digs, but then came the 96 chins comment from jj when he reacted to something she said that was below the belt...boundary hit...what ensued was josie undermining jj to everyone who would listen to her at the time.


This was further emphasised with keeva, when keeva started fooling around with jj as mates do...boundary hit....Josie simply tries to be coool by coming across as the fun girl without a care in the world when infact she is the complete opposite. It's all ok if it's josies rules, cross them and hit a boundary and there is hell to pay, it's this part of her personality that i can't stand at the moment as it has an impact, which is so unfair on the people who have crossed the boundary.

Totally agree - Josie manipulates her way through life, she has it down to a fine art now, a bit of poison here, a remark there, a lie to that one, an exaggeration to this one - and she has got her wish - Keeva is gone. Don't get me wrong I couldn't stand Keeva, but Josie in some ways is far worse.
Keeva was an "upfront, self confessed" bitch, but Josie is devious, sly and controlling, and she has taken in a lot of people.

The thing is that once you spot her modus operandi you realise she is a one trick pony, and her every move then becomes completely predictable.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

EVERYONE has boundaries...if they didnt people would just walk all over them....which in this case it seems Josie felt Caiomhe was trying to do, or take a liberty with her loyalty at least.

And that is still josies problem, not keevas, did josie just want keeva to sit in a corner when jj was having fun?

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Josie bitches about everyone - especially if she perceives they pose any threat to her imagined relationsip with JJ!

Who though? Ok perhaps missed from Livefeed but yet to see her bitch about Corin? She did not really with Sunshine, ok perhaps the crispgate thing

Anyway my point is I could care less about Josie, I just had issue with nasty people and I believe C is nasty person and not someone you would have as a friend and what I mean is I do not get this whole she is a Victim thing no way os that girl a victim

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And that is still josies problem, not keevas, did josie just want keeva to sit in a corner when jj was having fun?

I'm not sure...did Caiomhe expect her to sit back and keep her mouth shut when she felt betrayed?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm a follower to whom? Some of the nasty things she said where after her sidekick walked?


Plus, she has a typical narcassictic attitude - very self absorbed she never really formed any alliances in there which I think is a reflection of her character, so not think she can, even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week.......then she started latchuing on to others, not a loyal character either as we can see with Shabby ...................... not much going for her actually in terms of personality ............. however cannot be sure as she could be different in the outside world however we have only seen her boyfriend and mother, has she had any friends speaking up for her? I am not sure

what!..it was fake with shabby, lol.come on, the way she has been about the show and the other housemates is down to her loyalty to shabby and the things they discussed together when she was still in the house, keeva for me, has stayed true to those initial thought and opinions.

what others did she latch onto? Are you on about josie and jj, cause i'm sure she was taken in by josie and jj as they saw that she would have been very lonely without them.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

Who though? Ok perhaps missed from Livefeed but yet to see her bitch about Corin? She did not really with Sunshine, ok perhaps the crispgate thing

Anyway my point is I could care less about Josie, I just had issue with nasty people and I believe C is nasty person and not someone you would have as a friend and what I mean is I do not get this whole she is a Victim thing no way os that girl a victim

Didn't like Keeva either - but find Josie's behaviour far worse because she is so sneaky and dishonest about the type of person she is! She tries to portray herself as this friendly, easy-going, everybody's friend type - when really she is only interested in herself and her own feelings and will walk-over anyone who gets in her way of getting what she wants! Grade A bitch in my book!

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

I'm not sure...did Caiomhe expect her to sit back and keep her mouth shut when she felt betrayed?

No, but i'm guessing when she watches it all back she might be thinking, god, I wish she had came to me first about it.

[Parmy]

All those cheers on opening night have went to the poor girls head.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm a follower to whom? Some of the nasty things she said where after her sidekick walked?


Plus, she has a typical narcassictic attitude - very self absorbed she never really formed any alliances in there which I think is a reflection of her character, so not think she can, even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week.......then she started latchuing on to others, not a loyal character either as we can see with Shabby ...................... not much going for her actually in terms of personality ............. however cannot be sure as she could be different in the outside world however we have only seen her boyfriend and mother, has she had any friends speaking up for her? I am not sure

"even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week"
nah ... I think they genuinely liked each others company. They were always having a laugh together till Shabby went all "I luuurve you".

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No, but i'm guessing when she watches it all back she might be thinking, god, I wish she had came to me first about it.

Who knows, hindsight is a wonderful thing but no help to anyone.

I think putting it simply, it's a case of two's company etc etc...I doubt anyone is surprised this whole thing happened...well I'm not anyway

[zukhov]

Josie and Steve are untouchable in the house, you will never get a chance to vote them out, so suck it up!

[Merry Mockmas]

and the highlights also dont show john james following josie around because it would make there josie is a bunny boiler a pile of ****.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by zukhov

Josie and Steve are untouchable in the house, you will never get a chance to vote them out, so suck it up!

sadly i dont think we will get pop eye aswell.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

Who knows, hindsight is a wonderful thing but no help to anyone.

I think putting it simply, it's a case of two's company etc etc...I doubt anyone is surprised this whole thing happened...well I'm not anyway

ok, we'll leave it now and both admit i'm right.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

ok, we'll leave it now and both admit i'm right.

You know hell will freeze over first

[joeysteele]

All I can see is Josie setting herself up more and more,if this is the true Josie then she's a devious and very nasty piece of work. I can't believe I am saying this but none of it is John James's fault, he has made clear over and over again that he sees her as a friend or Sister,that he wants no romantic links in the house and he really does not encourage Josie at all. I did hold the view that he was maybe using her but I now see that she is the one that uses people. John James head must be going round in circles as tohow to deal with her. He doesn't wnat to reject her totally, to then be accused of treating her badly because of her weight, which she seems to be piling on since being in the house, then she does hardly any exercise.The guy must be near demented and I would be worried if I was him, out of the house she'fd likely tie him up in a barn to keep him to herself totally away from the whole Human race if she could.She has a very unhealthy obsession for JJ and its also taking her over completely.
In John James place, I would have to tell her to get lost,but it seems she is unable to understand English so he'd likely be wasting his breath.Give the guy some space and also on this one,I give him credit for his great patience in not blowing his top over having to put up with having the attentions of this parasitical leech.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by zukhov

Josie and Steve are untouchable in the house, you will never get a chance to vote them out, so suck it up!

don't worry, I could do this until xmas if need be.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

and the highlights also dont show john james following josie around because it would make there josie is a bunny boiler a pile of ****.

If JJ saw the bitching and number taking that Josie was up to in the last 3 day ( and weeks if you count Josie rubbishing JJ) then he would not go anywhere near her. Watch... Josie will find ANOTHER way to become the victim now that Keeva is out....and it will be her ol'favourite JJ who will cop all her back stabbing "porkies" again. Hope he and the HMs wise up before it's too late. He needs to dump that one.