[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Their tripe is always good for a right old belly laff tho Terry!

What makes you qualified to decide what is tripe and what is not?
Your belly shakes?
Or your expert training, professor?

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

What makes you qualified to decide what is tripe and what is not?
Your belly shakes?
Or your expert training, professor?

I am not a qualified to give phycological/psychiatric diagnoses ( patricularly when based solely on watching individuals compete on a reality show), so I offer none.

None of the armchair psychologists above have demonstrated any credible evidence to show they are any more qualified. Indeed, I'd venture that any FM who was qualified in these disciplines would flatly refuse to contribute on ethical and professional grounds. The obvious conclusion, therefore, must be that it's load of ill-informed and uneducated sh1te.

The logic is not hard to follow is it?

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Claymores

I am not a qualified to give phycological/psychiatric diagnoses based on watching individuals compete on a reality show, so I offer none.

But you believe you are qualified to judge what is sound psychological diagnosis and what is not.
This is you claiming to be an expert of all experts.

None of the armchair psychologists above have demonstrated any credible evidence to show they are any more qualified.

And you are an expert who would be able to judge that. So you claim here again.

Indeed, I'd venture that any FM who was qualified in these disciplines would flatly refuse to contribute.

'Indeed you venture'. You venture 'in deed' to guess any expert would flatly refuse to contribute.
Why not?
Psychologists and Therapists answer questions in online forums all the time. If you had 'Indeed ventured google' you could find THOUSANDS of them responding to questions in forums.
So what did you base your belief on?
Did experts 'flatly deny' contributions before?
Did they tell you that?

The obvious conclusion, therefore, must be that it's load of ill-informed sh1te.

That is not an 'obvious conclusion' at all. EVEN IF we suppose that FMs responding are not professionals - this doesn't 'conclude' they are wrong.
Example:
My ex was a full blown schizophrenic and my job included supervising schizophrenic people.
A close friend was diagnosed with 'schizo-affective disorder'.
yes.. actually this can help me give correct advice.
Even if I wasn't a Therapist.

The logic is not hard is it?

Its retarded. It wasn't even 'logic' at all. In fact, I think you have real problems with cognitive dissonance and we just saw it 'in action' with your senseless posts.
Woops.

[Claymores]

Nobody above has demonstrated their professionasl qualification and length of experience in the required disciplines. You yourself confirn that your contact is based upon anecdotal experience of friends/family and supervision in the role of carer rather than diagnostician/treatment manager.

When unqualified laypeople start handing down their diagnoses based upon watching a TV show (and I'm supposed by your reasining to accept them as sound evaluations), then it is really facepalm time indeed.

I await your mext 'expert' conclusions upon the housemates with baited breath Dr Ruth.

[Kerry]

Flippin' 'eck

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Nobody above has demonstrated their professionasl qualification and length of experience in the required disciplines.

How would you know unless you are claiming to be more of an expert than anyone posting here and even claiming yourself a 'judge of experts'.

You have done nothing to demonstrate this level of expertise except make illogical 'deductions'.

Do you have some degree or training to back up your claim to be able to discern and judge psychologists?

You yourself confirn that your contact is based upon anecdotal experience of friends/family and supervision in the role of carer rather than diagnostician/treatment manager.

Anecdotes are good. Psychology is based on them. Many anecdotes are called 'data'.
And again with your inability to work out logic. I did NOT tell you I was NOT a diagnostician/treatment manager, therapist, professional, trained etc etc.

What I did tell you was that people who live with and work with (in this example) schizophrenics most definitely can and will correctly identify another schizophrenic.

but the real issue here is that they could do this and be correct.
You suggested that any non-professional WILL be wrong. That is not necessarily true.
A non-professional could make a perfectly accurate diagnosis.

In fact, I have correctly identified problems with schizophrenics, taken them to the hospital where they confirmed I was perfectly accurate.
So you were wrong.

When unqualified laypeople start handing down their diagnoses based upon watching a TV show (and I'm supposed by your reasining to accept them as sound evaluations), then it is really facepalm time indeed.

How do you know they were handing down wrong diagnosis if you are no expert on this?
How do you know they are not handing down accurate diagnosis?

I await your mext 'expert' conclusions upon the housemates with baited breath Dr Ruth.

You should take your own advice and agree you have no way of diagnosing yourself as mentally healthy (or not) and find an expert to analyze and diagnose your mental condition for you.