[Beastie]

Yeah autism.. aspergers.. etc.. it is on a large scale. It can go from.. having it mild.. to having it severe.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by InOne

Doesn't mean BPD really though. His issues probably stem from his Dad dying and the fact he had to quit wor to comfort his mum. He definitely has a lot going on up there though. Could do with a Psychiatrist.

He definitely needs proper psychiatric help, even Josie, who is not noted for her amazing intellect told him that!!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by fingers

He definitely needs proper psychiatric help, even Josie, who is not noted for her amazing intellect told him that!!

Doubt he will get it. He will leave BB, then go back to his cosy life in OZ.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by InOne

Doubt he will get it. He will leave BB, then go back to his cosy life in OZ.

I doubt that he would seek it anyway!

[Frank E]

Gosh, all these differential diagnoses going around!
We could really throw the ICD 10 manual at him, not the diagnoses they contain ... we could just throw books at him.

[Alpertinator]

I don't get why people so often view psychiatry in such a negative light. Well firstly they're afraid of it actually, not that they'd easily admit to that.

I started seeing a psychiatrist when I was 15 and screw the fookin' stereotypical psychiatrist with the laying on a couch and all that $hit that really pisses me off. It's really helpful and my psychiatrist (though like 25 years older than me) just feels like a mate now. I just go and talk to him and have a laugh with him and I'll be leavin' him in about a month actually.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

I don't get why people so often view psychiatry in such a negative light. Well firstly they're afraid of it actually, not that they'd easily admit to that.

I started seeing a psychiatrist when I was 15 and screw the fookin' stereotypical psychiatrist with the laying on a couch and all that $hit that really pisses me off. It's really helpful and my psychiatrist (though like 25 years older than me) just feels like a mate now. I just go and talk to him and have a laugh with him and I'll be leavin' him in about a month actually.

There are up and downs to it really.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

I don't get why people so often view psychiatry in such a negative light. Well firstly they're afraid of it actually, not that they'd easily admit to that.

I started seeing a psychiatrist when I was 15 and screw the fookin' stereotypical psychiatrist with the laying on a couch and all that $hit that really pisses me off. It's really helpful and my psychiatrist (though like 25 years older than me) just feels like a mate now. I just go and talk to him and have a laugh with him and I'll be leavin' him in about a month actually.

Yeah I used to see psychiastrists and that. I also went to speech therapy too. I stopped going to hospital and that for it in my early teens. I am fine with my learning ability and that.. but I am just cautious of "people" at my tender age of 21.. lol. Well nah I am fine really. People should just do what they want and f uck conventional living in a way.

I have trust issues.. I think. To be honest.. I used to hate liars too. Well it is like with people.. "having a go" it is like I always had to prove myself. I think "people" around me too often cause more harm than good. I used to be optimistic around people. Try and see the best in them but now I am like.. mm.. can't trust anyone at times.

I think it is because I have been hurt by a lot of people. So that I am happier on my own. Well I have like one friend now.. or friends I talk to now and again. I think I need to find the right people to connect with really.

[Alpertinator]

See that's what's good about havin' asbergers' you know how to break the conventions and you're determined not to conform to petty $hit... bad thing is you have to bite your tongue a lot... or maybe that's just me...

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

See that's what's good about havin' asbergers' you know how to break the conventions and you're determined not to conform to petty $hit... bad thing is you have to bite your tongue a lot... or maybe that's just me...

Lol biting your tongue.. mmmm.. well I don't know.. I am happier now really because I choose not to have the hassle of people going on at me. lol

Life seems to be about how many friends you have on facebook.. too conventional and it's like.. oh.. is that what we have to do now?? NO!! you can f uck that pretentious sh!t. lol

[Alpertinator]

Yeah see that's a huge part of my philosophy - social networking is awful.

I signed up a facebook account cos' I was basically forced to but I never go on it and I find it incredible that people can get addicted to this site on which you look at peoples' profiles, look at pictures, read about every little part of peoples' private lives that they love to publish, and poke each other. A lot of the status updates on facebook often tend to be people showing off about how good something they've just done is, or how they passed their driving lesson I don't get why people want to show off... and moreso don't get why they want to share details of their private lives with many many people... many of whom they don't really know at all.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

Yeah see that's a huge part of my philosophy - social networking is awful.

I signed up a facebook account cos' I was basically forced to but I never go on it and I find it incredible that people can get addicted to this site on which you look at peoples' profiles, look at pictures, read about every little part of peoples' private lives that they love to publish, and poke each other. A lot of the status updates on facebook often tend to be people showing off about how good something they've just done is, or how they passed their driving lesson I don't get why people want to show off... and moreso don't get why they want to share details of their private lives with many many people... many of whom they don't really know at all.

Yeah I agree. Omg I have like 200 and something friends on it.. couldn't care if anyone deletes me though! A few years ago I used to be like.. with friends.. "aww please tell juicy gossip" and I really wanted to know people's secrets and sh!t but now.. I just don't give a sh!t and can't stand using bastards. There is only my friend and bf who give and take with me.. the only ones I know care for me.. pick me up in their car.. etc.. sum1 who I hardly know wanted a lift home but I know they don't like me.. so I had a go and said NO! There is only a few people in my life I would be sad if they were gone.. my friend, bf, and my mum and dad, suppose my grandparents too.. it is true.. you can choose your friends but not your family! lol. Well I have other friends too.. but it seems more like aquaintances because I don't like getting too close with many people.

Anyway yeah Facefake.. I only pop on.. now and again to see if I have got anything but it is a load of sh!te.

I like to come on here because I am a fan of BB.. and no one who I really know watches it.. so.. I thought.. well this is a nice site.. usually.. lol just to talk to randomers about the show and other shizz

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Zippy

You should tell us what it is first. I cant be arsed googling it.

I have it.

I don't have time to explain it all because I have to go watch Eastenders but basically you find it really hard in social situations and your social skills is quite bad and other stuff such as knowing alot about something you aren't actually focussed on, one minute you may be very focussed on one thing and then not care about it the next.
A big part of it is you act quite awkward in social situations with other people.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Patrick

I have it.

I don't have time to explain it all because I have to go watch Eastenders but basically you find it really hard in social situations and your social skills is quite bad and other stuff such as knowing alot about something you aren't actually focussed on, one minute you may be very focussed on one thing and then not care about it the next.
A big part of it is you act quite awkward in social situations with other people.

Yeah in a nutshell I would say I am like this.

[Alpertinator]

Patrick explained it very well.

It's more of a hinderance than a help. I mean I know about the focussed thing I know $hit loads about the film industry, films of many different generations. Watched hundreds of films, am familiar with hundreds of actors I know about how films did in the awards and the years they came out and stuff.

Similar with other things, like football, I can remember so much information about the history of the British football leagues and the history of the world cup and stuff, not even sure how I do it I find it easy. Unfortunately I could never remember anything maths related... (I have some issue with maths in which... basically I can't understand it like it's a different language... similar for Science... well Science is like Italian for me I understand it a little bit but not enough to get by haha).

Well... here's the thing, if I'm not interested in something, and especially if I have no angle (nothing in it for me/I see no purpose in doing it/I don't understand why it's important to me) then I simply can't learn about it. Needless to say I didn't do well in school. I only did well in two subjects - Literacy and Food technology... I'm kinda' like Nathan when it comes to cooking.

[bigbrothermfer]

yes he does have that or autism

[Alpertinator]

I don't think he appears to be autistic really.

You know he might not have asbergers' he may actually have intense paranoia issues, or ADHD or maybe errr... bi-polar personality is it... damn I forget what it is but basically it means manic depressive I believe... I don't like that term though I think it's misleading. I think they call it bi-polar...

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

I don't think he appears to be autistic really.

You know he might not have asbergers' he may actually have intense paranoia issues, or ADHD or maybe errr... bi-polar personality is it... damn I forget what it is but basically it means manic depressive I believe... I don't like that term though I think it's misleading. I think they call it bi-polar...

Bi-Polar Disorder.

[Alpertinator]

That's it thanks.

Basically I think there's a whole array of issues/disorders whatever that JJ could be suffering from. Doesn't have to be asbergers', but he shows traits of it.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Thomas C

No way. I have a friend who has it and she gets frightened around new people/certain situations. John James is a confident person who will take anyone on in any argument.

Unless theyre a masculine male.

[BB_Eye]

Not any way, shape or form. People with Asperger's are normally shy, hermetic and naive and would have severe difficulty coping in a house full of nutters. They are also eccentric and idiosyncratic.

Now look at John James. He is the personification of boring, braindead conformity.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder describes him perfectly though...

[Angus]

Originally Posted by InOne

Bit of a strong diagnosis there Dr Angus lol. I do see him as very emotionally immature though.

I was married to a BPD sufferer for over 12 years so I recognise a lot of the symptoms. It is not unusual for many people to suffer with BPD and not be aware of it.

JJ's severe trust issues in particular are a dead giveaway: He admits he records telephone conversations, keeps all emails and letters "for evidence" and checks timetables to ensure that people are telling him the truth. He made a strong attachment to one person (Josie) very quickly in the house and she serves as his "security blanket". That is why if he felt she betrayed him (like over the crab eyes incident) he over-reacted because it was an issue of trust for him to find she had lied.

His constant arguments are a way of channelling his inner aggression into a more socially accepted interaction, but he has difficulty in accepting other people's versions of events, and will often convince himself he is right when he is not. He can be turned off a person just by a look or a gesture (Rachael), and will be relentless in his pursuit of a point, however misguided.

I think he has some of the symptoms in different degrees of severity, and I would not give much hope to anyone getting invovled in a long term relationship with this guy.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by InOne

Doesn't mean BPD really though. His issues probably stem from his Dad dying and the fact he had to quit wor to comfort his mum. He definitely has a lot going on up there though. Could do with a Psychiatrist.

BPD sufferers have abnormal fears of abandonment, and the death of JJ's father could be viewed by him in this light. Unfortunately BPD sufferers will often not recognise that they have any problems whatsoevers and because of their inability to acknowledge their illness they are usually unresponsive to treatments.