[Late for the Party]

Its the, drunk on the "lord" bit that dosen't make sense

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Late for the Party

Its the, drunk on the "lord" bit that dosen't make sense

That one is a bit harder to explain - but is a big part of their belief system - but I can get the logic of it - just about!

[Late for the Party]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That one is a bit harder to explain - but is a big part of their belief system - but I can get the logic of it - just about!

I suppose I'll never get it, so i'm going to stop trying.
I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular but:

When someone can show me any case, where, under reasonable scientific conditions, it has been proven, that someone who believes something so much, become physically disabled, completely incoherent, I will then take back everything I have ever said about Dave.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Late for the Party

I suppose I'll never get it, so i'm going to stop trying.
I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular but:

When someone can show me any case, where, under reasonable scientific conditions, it has been proven, that someone who believes something so much, become physically disabled, completely incoherent, I will then take back everything I have ever said about Dave.

you wont get it as it is fictitious

hence the only people who do pretend to get it are the needy and gullible


think of it as a numpty identifier

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Late for the Party

When someone can show me any case, where, under reasonable scientific conditions, it has been proven, that someone who believes something so much, become physically disabled, completely incoherent, I will then take back everything I have ever said about Dave.

Trying to add a bunch of talk of 'scientific proof' is lame because you can dismiss anything except maybe maths,
however,
If you need to know then you might look no further than Derren Brown although others have worked with this too.
You bet.. yes indeed people can work themselves into euphoric ecstatic states through self-induced psychosomatic states.

You may have also seen (in life or on television) where someone in massive mental/emotional distress has lost their ability to stand.
Upon news the husband has died the woman becomes hysterical and seconds later her legs give out.. relatives must hold her up.

I was reading about a thing in wars 'shell shock' where men.. due to psychological trauma had become paralyzed.
There was no actual physical damage to their legs but traumatic fear etc.. they were literally 'scared stiff' and unable to walk or move.

Not exactly the same thing but here Brown shows how people can be convince they are drunk and their bodies will act accordingly:

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Trying to add a bunch of talk of 'scientific proof' is lame because you can dismiss anything except maybe maths,
however,
If you need to know then you might look no further than Derren Brown although others have worked with this too.
You bet.. yes indeed people can work themselves into euphoric ecstatic states through self-induced psychosomatic states.

You may have also seen (in life or on television) where someone in massive mental/emotional distress has lost their ability to stand.
Upon news the husband has died the woman becomes hysterical and seconds later her legs give out.. relatives must hold her up.

I was reading about a thing in wars 'shell shock' where men.. due to psychological trauma had become paralyzed.
There was no actual physical damage to their legs but traumatic fear etc.. they were literally 'scared stiff' and unable to walk or move.

Not exactly the same thing but here Brown shows how people can be convince they are drunk and their bodies will act accordingly:

Youtube video

precisely

[Late for the Party]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Trying to add a bunch of talk of 'scientific proof' is lame

I still require it

Originally Posted by ElProximo

You bet.. yes indeed people can work themselves into euphoric ecstatic states through self-induced psychosomatic states.

Yes, mentally deficient people

Originally Posted by ElProximo

You may have also seen (in life or on television) where someone in massive mental/emotional distress has lost their ability to stand.
Upon news the husband has died the woman becomes hysterical and seconds later her legs give out.. relatives must hold her up.

That is an extremely traumatic event and is a bad comparison.

David is not scared stiff, maybe a little mentally deficient

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Late for the Party

I still require it

You can't handle it.

Yes, mentally deficient people

Nope. It's better pulled off by more intelligent people. I think deficient ones can do it too.
The main thing is that you now agree this can happen. I feel better knowing you are just a little more educated.

[Late for the Party]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

You can't handle it.

You can't provide it

Originally Posted by ElProximo

The main thing is that you now agree this can happen. I feel better knowing you are just a little more educated.

Glad you feel better. It still isn't the true in daves case