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flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I don't need to - the onis is on the prosecution - the law of the land! You have failed to 'PROVE' anything!

And so have you!

Crimson Dynamo · 29-07-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I genuinely don't believe he is the type of man that you lot have painted him! The prosecution has not proven its case - therefore I remain steadfast in my views that the guy is ok!

So how does he make money to live from what he does?

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by housemate

That I can respect, I don't want to alter your opinion in the least but you said you haven't heard or seen him doing anything wrong ... its not subjective when he tells his 'friend' that he would never turn on him and within seconds of that person leaving, tells everyone that he wouldn't trust him as far as he can throw him! This behaviour is not acceptable by any of the HMs but from a self proffessed man of God it is diabolical in the extreme.
If you haven't heard him say that and similar things then, as I said before ... you need to do a bit more research before defending him blindly.

The 'bitching' you are talking about is a pretty lame reason to call a man of religion a charleton! I am not interested in that - it has nothing to do with the allegations you make about him as a fraud! If I have missed some bitching from him on live-feed - that wouldn't change my views about him not being charleton - it would take more than that!

He is undoubedly one of the nicer hms, more grounded, more pleasant to be around, he has more interesting conversation, is funny and if I were in there - he is one of the ones I would want to spend my time around! That is how I judge him as a hm!

housemate · 29-07-2010, 02:18 PM

Good for you sweetums, bored now because you seem to have run out of fresh 'arguments' .. I'm not prepared tp go around in another circle with you but I'm very happy for you .. bye.

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So how does he make money to live from what he does?

If you want to condemn him - then perhaps you should make the effort to find that out for yourself as evidence to back up your 'allegations'!

If you find some proof of fraud - let me know, and perhaps the authorities as well! In the meantime ....!

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by housemate

Good for you sweetums, bored now because you seem to have run out of fresh 'arguments' .. I'm not prepared tp go around in another circle with you but I'm very happy for you .. bye.

I'll meet you half-way - if you can produce some fresh 'evidence' - in fact any evidence at all - to back-up your allegations!

housemate · 29-07-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I'll meet you half-way - if you can produce some fresh 'evidence' - in fact any evidence at all - to back-up your allegations!

Just for you ...... er no, now be good and go play with someone else or maybe have a nap.
also it might be cool to remember that sometimes the grown-ups want to debate issues rather than play silly games of 'I'll just say whatever will get a reaction'
Night night xx

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by housemate

Just for you ...... er no, now be good and go play with someone else or maybe have a nap.
also it might be cool to remember that sometimes the grown-ups want to debate issues rather than play silly games of 'I'll just say whatever will get a reaction'
Night night xx

Ha, ha - yes dear - who are you trying to kid me, or yourself!

flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I'll meet you half-way - if you can produce some fresh 'evidence' - in fact any evidence at all - to back-up your allegations!

Conversely perhaps you could provide some evidence as to how he does make his money? Also evidence that he really does get drunk on god & evidence that he can cure cancer...

housemate · 29-07-2010, 02:32 PM

Flaming Galah ... Wombat is tired, leave him alone ... he loves Dave and all he stamds for .. thats a good thing for people like him. Just hope he isn't ever on the receiving end of it.

Crimson Dynamo · 29-07-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

If you want to condemn him - then perhaps you should make the effort to find that out for yourself as evidence to back up your 'allegations'!

If you find some proof of fraud - let me know, and perhaps the authorities as well! In the meantime ....!

If i was a barrister in court then I suspect I would

as this is a BB forum I am just going to stick with common sense and the fact that unlike you I have not back myself into a corner trying to defend the undefendable

Crimson Dynamo · 29-07-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by housemate

Flaming Galah ... Wombat is tired, leave him alone ... he loves Dave and all he stamds for .. thats a good thing for people like him. Just hope he isn't ever on the receiving end of it.

Wombai is a lady

and she wants it

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Conversely perhaps you could provide some evidence as to how he does make his money? Also evidence that he really does get drunk on god & evidence that he can cure cancer...

You are the ones vilifying him! In order to do that successfully - you need to prove your case!

Just shouting such allegations, with nothing to back them up other than a few old vids on public display, that at the very least are wide open to interpretation - doesn't cut it in the minds of the grown-ups, which explains the other guys retreat!

It isn't down to me! Good luck with that - I think you are going to need it!

housemate · 29-07-2010, 02:35 PM

Lol excuse me, I took a 50/50 on it

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If i was a barrister in court then I suspect I would

as this is a BB forum I am just going to stick with common sense and the fact that unlike you I have not back myself into a corner trying to defend the undefendable

You just did - by hiding behind the old commonsense banner - again very much open to interpretation!

flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You are the ones vilifying him! In order to do that successfully - you need to prove your case!

Just shouting such allegations, with nothing to back them up other than a few old vids on public display, that at the very least are wide open to interpretation - doesn't cut it in the minds of the grown-ups, which explains the other guys retreat!

It isn't down to me! Good luck with that - I think you are going to need it!

And you are the one trying to defend him to the death with evidence to back up your claims either! And any evidence we produce you simply shut your eyes & stick your fingers in your ears... You are a lost cause...

And please don't take a condesending tone about "grown ups" as your behaviour is far from mature...

The evidence is there for all to see, at least those that want to see it...

housemate · 29-07-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You are the ones vilifying him! In order to do that successfully - you need to prove your case!

Just shouting such allegations, with nothing to back them up other than a few old vids on public display, that at the very least are wide open to interpretation - doesn't cut it in the minds of the grown-ups, which explains the other guys retreat!

It isn't down to me! Good luck with that - I think you are going to need it!

Ha ha ha ha, thats great, now she's claiming to have amnesia ... been all through this but then when you haven't got an argument its easy to just say the same old tosh, cirling around and around untill she thinks she has 'won' ... good grief!!

Crimson Dynamo · 29-07-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You just did - by hiding behind the old commonsense banner - again very much open to interpretation!

I think 99.9% of people on Tibb can distinguish betwixt a real job and a fake job

between a lie "I have been to the sun" - Dave

and the truth "Wombai is talking bollocks" - LT

x

housemate · 29-07-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think 99.9% of people on Tibb can distinguish betwixt a real job and a fake job

between a lie "I have been to the sun" - Dave

and the truth "Wombai is talking bollocks" - LT

x

Agreed

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think 99.9% of people on Tibb can distinguish betwixt a real job and a fake job

between a lie "I have been to the sun" - Dave

and the truth "Wombai is talking bollocks" - LT

x

The fact that Dave has quite a large fan base - knocks that rather 'optimistic' figure you give out of the water!

Again simple interpretations. Trouble is you 3 try, very hard, to present your interpretations as fact, when of course, they aren't! - and expect the rest of us to just buy it! When asked for facts - you cry, provide a defence! Avoidance tactics!

Maybe you should just stop taking everything he says quite so literally - and follow your own advice and excercise a bit of commonsense!

flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

The fact that Dave has quite a large fan base - knocks that rather 'optimistic' figure you give out of the water!

Again simple interpretations. Trouble is you 3 try, very hard, to present your interpretations as fact, when of course, they aren't! - and expect the rest of us to just buy it! When asked for facts - you cry, provide a defence! Avoidance tactics!

Maybe you should just stop taking everything he says quite so literally - and follow your own advice and excercise a bit of commonsense!

Dave has fans because they do not know what he is truely like...

You try very hard to defend him, even against the undefendable behaviour, this comes across as extremely deluded. You have been presented with video evidence, evidence that has come straight out of Dave's mouth himslef on BB, yet you still try to deny & defend him... hilarious!

Instead of you constantly harping on about evidence to back up our claims (many of which have actually been transmitted on BB or are available on YouTube) why do you not provide us with evidence for Dave's claims that he can cure cancer? That he has been to the sun? That fairies visit him? That he gets drunks on Gods love? That he can grow back someones amputated limbs, etc...

Crimson Dynamo · 29-07-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

The fact that Dave has quite a large fan base - knocks that rather 'optimistic' figure you give out of the water!

Again simple interpretations. Trouble is you 3 try, very hard, to present your interpretations as fact, when of course, they aren't! - and expect the rest of us to just buy it! When asked for facts - you cry, provide a defence! Avoidance tactics!

Maybe you should just stop taking everything he says quite so literally - and follow your own advice and excercise a bit of commonsense!

My only explanation for your defence is that you are part of a similar "charismatic" so called church?

am I right?

fingers · 29-07-2010, 03:16 PM

The trouble with St. Dave is that he posts the majority of his laughable vids on YouTube HIMSELF - for his cult followers and as recruiting ads for new followers, his "Glory" Groupies just deny the evidence of their own eyes or pretend that the vids don't exist except as figments of over taxed imaginations!!!

"Glory" Groupies will deny anything that annoys them!

housemate · 29-07-2010, 03:32 PM

You know it would be great to have someone just explain how this guy manages to win them over in the face of what they have seen and heard. I haven't got a problem with them loving him, I have a problem with them trying to justify his actions. They all seem to live in an enclosed World where a nice smile beats any evidence. Unlike Dave, I'm not tryin to preach to anyone!
I'd really love to have a rational, non defensive discussion based on all that has been seen of dave on BB and Youtube. Even better would be if someone could show me that I have misunderstood Daves Organisation and explain how they benefit the poor, sick and lonely.

ElProximo · 29-07-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers

The trouble with St. Dave is that he posts the majority of his laughable vids on YouTube HIMSELF - for his cult followers and as recruiting ads for new followers, his "Glory" Groupies just deny the evidence of their own eyes or pretend that the vids don't exist except as figments of over taxed imaginations!!!

"Glory" Groupies will deny anything that annoys them!

This doesn't make sense unless I understand you mean to say 'glory groupies' are someone different from 'cult followers'?

Far from denying these videos they most certainly do post them on youtube.
Exactly.
I want you to think about that now. They post these proudly.

Do 'scam artists' trying to hide something do that?
Would a 'con-man' intending to 'act' one way but not tell anyone this other stuff be leaving his youtube channel active and full of vids?

What you are doing is giving more evidence that David does definitely believe in this stuff and he believes its real and what he is doing 'works'.

Your making that case when you admit that they don't hide any of this and even proudly display it.

And let me say it again - I wish they WERE ACTORS. That would be bad but not nearly as bad as a bunch of them who actually believe this is from God and carry on accordingly.

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