[Ammi]

She hates Sam - I get that. Although I'm no fan of hers I do understand that she can't be blamed for that because she has been his target more than the others. However, the others have differing opinion and she just cannot accept that. She says that its fine she hasn't got a problem with how they think, yet constantly its all she bangs on about and she just can't let it drop. She will not rest until everyone else is just as wound up as her and then she'll say 'I didn't say that so you would get wound up, I want you to make your own mind up' Pleeeeeeease just let it go. The reason Sam keeps on at you is because you bite, every time. How satisfying for him, and how revealing for us. Your supposed to be a wallflower type girl next door with not much luck with the guys and yet you have confidently and effectively flirted with John James, Nathan, Andrew and JJ2. No lack of confidence there but a very strong alpha female who knows want she wants and is tenacious in her pursuits. A gameplayer? of course, who isn't? - no crime there but at least support her because she plays well and not because she's a combine harvester - cos country bumpkin she aint.

[yousoboo!]

She comes across as just a normal girl to me.

[fizzy]

Originally Posted by rhino

She hates Sam - I get that. Although I'm no fan of hers I do understand that she can't be blamed for that because she has been his target more than the others. However, the others have differing opinion and she just cannot accept that. She says that its fine she hasn't got a problem with how they think, yet constantly its all she bangs on about and she just can't let it drop. She will not rest until everyone else is just as wound up as her and then she'll say 'I didn't say that so you would get wound up, I want you to make your own mind up' Pleeeeeeease just let it go. The reason Sam keeps on at you is because you bite, every time. How satisfying for him, and how revealing for us. Your supposed to be a wallflower type girl next door with not much luck with the guys and yet you have confidently and effectively flirted with John James, Nathan, Andrew and JJ2. No lack of confidence there but a very strong alpha female who knows want she wants and is tenacious in her pursuits. A gameplayer? of course, who isn't? - no crime there but at least support her because she plays well and not because she's a combine harvester - cos country bumpkin she aint.

If she's not careful her pastry will be rolled to thinly to cover her pie

[Zippy]

She's not been controlling in the house generally. I think with JJ she is because I think he's naturally submissive. He clearly enjoys her dominating him.

I don't think she flirts with guys in a girly way. She jokes with them on an equal level and is self depricating. Guys just find that attractive.

And she's not supposed to be anything. Like all of us she's complex and capable of being several things at once.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zippy

She's not been controlling in the house generally. I think with JJ she is because I think he's naturally submissive. He clearly enjoys her dominating him.

I don't think she flirts with guys in a girly way. She jokes with them on an equal level and is self depricating. Guys just find that attractive.

And she's not supposed to be anything. Like all of us she's complex and capable of being several things at once.

Well I agree with your analysis of her being capable of several things at once - as we all are absolutely. People will still like her anyway, but should accept she has a calculating and manipulative side to her personality - necessary I would think to survive in the BB house, so no problem there. But Its when her fans make out she is all innocence and sweetness, incapable of calculation. Surely this would make her not human

[Ammi]

Lol - I forgot to say - she herself encourages this opinion by saying things like she woudn't of course be interested in thousands of pounds for magazine deals - How absurd does that sound. Taking advantage of the perks when you come out is part of the whole thing - nobody will think any worse for admitting that - we all need cash

[JEJ]

Originally Posted by rhino

No lack of confidence there but a very strong alpha female who knows want she wants and is tenacious in her pursuits.

Absolutely, and let's not forget she works in sales.

I don't buy her assertions that she has low self esteem either, people seem to think that because she's a 'big' girl she would/should automatically have low self esteem. Trust me, I've been on both sides and it takes a certain degree of feeling comfortable in your own skin to carry off being that size (she could after all do something about it if she wanted.) Has nobody every noticed that the most insecure people are generally of above average attractiveness and slim? You can pretty much guarantee on the Jeremy Kyle show that after they've painted a picture of an insecure wreck a really pretty girl will walk out!

[Crimson Dynamo]

she is just a regular girl

[joeysteele]

I think we see the real Josie most of the time, I was sad dhe got so into JJames because I feel it stifled her great original bubbly personality she had at the start. What I do feel is that she is and feels very insecure,so forstly YES, likes attention but also she wants to control the attention and often thats where she gets into difficulties.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by rhino

She hates Sam - I get that. Although I'm no fan of hers I do understand that she can't be blamed for that because she has been his target more than the others. However, the others have differing opinion and she just cannot accept that. She says that its fine she hasn't got a problem with how they think, yet constantly its all she bangs on about and she just can't let it drop. She will not rest until everyone else is just as wound up as her and then she'll say 'I didn't say that so you would get wound up, I want you to make your own mind up' Pleeeeeeease just let it go. The reason Sam keeps on at you is because you bite, every time. How satisfying for him, and how revealing for us. Your supposed to be a wallflower type girl next door with not much luck with the guys and yet you have confidently and effectively flirted with John James, Nathan, Andrew and JJ2. No lack of confidence there but a very strong alpha female who knows want she wants and is tenacious in her pursuits. A gameplayer? of course, who isn't? - no crime there but at least support her because she plays well and not because she's a combine harvester - cos country bumpkin she aint.

You'll find that when Josie feels the need to say these things she invariably means the opposite?

[seanraff07]

Josie is herself the majority of the time.

John James is bringing her down though.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by seanraff07

Josie is herself the majority of the time.

John James is bringing her down though.

Really? you know her then? I can only assume thats the only way you would know that.