[Julie10]

Originally Posted by ste2010

24 hours is a lifeftime if you are leaving within 72. Big brother put him with Rachel knowing how he would react. The more I watch him the more I think that his behaviour comes from being bullied. I think he is desparate to be liked.

I'd have thought that was desperate to be hated as he is not going to be liked behaving the way he is. And I will state again. The task was not about him it was about teamwork for the GROUP.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Really??? As if John James would have gotten half as far in the show if he was ugly.

Strip away the boyish good looks and half the 'misunderstood' Byronic archetype that sets viewers' oestrogen levels off the scale is gone and you are left with the boring, six-faced, self-centered person that is John James.

Telling people what he thought about them would have kept him in this long. He needs to shake Josie off and get back to that. Besides the rest aren't real stunners either and they're still in.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by ange7

So his eyes lit up when his mum said he had a following in oz? I read that as surprise... and it is surprising if it were true. There has been zero coverage of him over here. But you read that as "ooooh I hope to get a mag deal"? lol When people look at YOU in surprise do you say "no!! you want be getting a magazine deal!". ?... and do they back away nervously.^@^

I'm only putting two and two together. He has become embroiled in a fauxmance with a girl he is not even that interested in which only really started when he got information from the outside world that viewers thought they could become an item. He is about as media savvy as a housemate can get, yet scalds other housemates for opportunism in the show.

[ste2010]

Originally Posted by Julie10

I'd have thought that was desperate to be hated as he is not going to be liked behaving the way he is. And I will state again. The task was not about him it was about teamwork for the GROUP.

Have to agree to disagree on that one then. It was Ł50 towards the task at the end of the day. But i take your point.

[ste2010]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

I'm only putting two and two together. He has become embroiled in a fauxmance with a girl he is not even that interested in which only really started when he got information from the outside world that viewers thought they could become an item. He is about as media savvy as a housemate can get, yet scalds other housemates for opportunism in the show.

Not true - he liked Josie before Andrew, Keeley and Rachel came in and started talking about outside stuff.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Julie10

I'd have thought that was desperate to be hated as he is not going to be liked behaving the way he is. And I will state again. The task was not about him it was about teamwork for the GROUP.

please ... JJ1 said repeatedly he can't stand Rachael's voice. BB puts them in together. It was a good test and he didn't do well but don't say BB didn't pick these 2 for a reason.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ange7

you moan about JJ fans liking him just because of his looks and that they therefore are shallow fools. Yet this post looks like your hating him for the same reason.

JJ doesn't use his looks the same way a "player" would.

Rubbish! I was simply responding to a post about him not being vain!

I disagreed because of his use of face cream and his bleached blonde hair - both of which definitely suggest vanity!

It was in direct response to a particular comment - don't sidetrack!

[ange7]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

I'm only putting two and two together. He has become embroiled in a fauxmance with a girl he is not even that interested in which only really started when he got information from the outside world that viewers thought they could become an item. He is about as media savvy as a housemate can get, yet scalds other housemates for opportunism in the show.

"which only really started when he got information from the outside world that viewers thought they could become an item"
dude? ... that beautiful romance ( :P ) started way before the videos from home were aired. Fail

[ste2010]

Originally Posted by ange7

please ... JJ1 said repeatedly he can't stand Rachael's voice. BB puts them in together. It was a good test and he didn't do well but don't say BB didn't pick these 2 for a reason.

Definately they put them together hoping to get a reaction from John. And they got it. It's interesting that he has only had one secret task ( I think). I wish they would give him a task this afternoon. I would love to see the fun side of him before he leaves. There is a good side to him. I know not may people agree but I don't believe he is a bad person.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ste2010

So having a decent haircut and using a face cream makes you vain?

Not talking about his haircut - I said his bleached blonde hair!

[ange7]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Rubbish! I was simply responding to a post about him not being vain!

I disagreed because of his use of face cream and his bleached blonde hair - both of which definitely suggest vanity!

It was in direct response to a particular comment - don't sidetrack!

your point was he is vain. My point was he is not. Sidetrack? My argument was on rails! Vain people talk about how hot hey are all the time ( Rach1), JJ doesn't.... using product doesn't equal vanity. Is Corin therefore vain also given she slaps it on with trowel?

[ste2010]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Not talking about his haircut - I said his bleached blonde hair!

Which is part of his haircut - Lots of guys have their hair like that now! Come on if you are going to rip him to pieces there is no point having a pop at his hair.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by ange7

your point was he is vain. My point was he is not. Sidetrack? My argument was on rails! Vain people talk about how hot hey are all the time ( Rach1), JJ doesn't.... using product doesn't equal vanity. Is Corin therefore vain also given she slaps it on with trowel?

Yes Corin is vain. No double standards here!

[Julesuk]

BB are doing a hatchet job on him so plain to see, I know he hasnt done himself any favours either, but on their site all the loved up video clips of him and Josie even put together a music one about them, for whatever reason now, clips they are putting up are making it look like he is snubbing her portraying him to be using her - its rubbish you could hear them on live feed last nite and that wasnt the case at all he was talking about when they were out of the house but the cameras were on JJ and Corin - its typical of media in this country they build someone/something up and then knock them down. I think he is aware of what BB are doing in regards of the recent task they are setting him up to fail - he is also beginning to realise that there are also a lot of not honest people in the house and they will do anything to achieve what they want to win - I dont think it has ever been about winning for John, he questions everything as we all know and of late he has begun to realise that the housemates arent all what they seem.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by ange7

"which only really started when he got information from the outside world that viewers thought they could become an item"
dude? ... that beautiful romance ( :P ) started way before the videos from home were aired. Fail

No it didn't. John didn't tell Josie he loved her until after the newbies came in and even if he hadn't, it was only when they arrived that he began putting some effort into feigning interest in her. This is subjective anyway, come up with some facts before you take juvenile snipes at people.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

the thing is there's only 2 weeks left. it's time to start getting them out and saving our winner. all the true entertainment should have happened earlier.

the thumbsucking mare definitely ruined john james and her potiental by sticking to him like a fly on fecal matter

[Julie10]

[QUOTE=Julesuk;3619396]BB are doing a hatchet job on him so plain to see, I know he hasnt done himself any favours either, but on their site all the loved up video clips of him and Josie even put together a music one about them, for whatever reason now, clips they are putting up are making it look like he is snubbing her portraying him to be using her - its rubbish you could hear them on live feed last nite and that wasnt the case at all he was talking about when they were out of the house but the cameras were on JJ and Corin - its typical of media in this country they build someone/something up and then knock them down. I think he is aware of what BB are doing in regards of the recent task they are setting him up to fail - he is also beginning to realise that there are also a lot of not honest people in the house and they will do anything to achieve what they want to win - I dont think it has ever been about winning for John, he questions everything as we all know and of late he has begun to realise that the housemates arent all what they seem.

He has been looking too hard at himself in the mirror. He is as desperate to win as any of them in there. Saying he doesn't want to win it over and over again doesn't mean its true. All of them hope to win or they wouldn't be in there hes just decided to change his game a bit.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

the thing is there's only 2 weeks left. it's time to start getting them out and saving our winner. all the true entertainment should have happened earlier.

the thumbsucking mare definitely ruined john james and her potiental by sticking to him like a fly on fecal matter

Ah, there we go. Blame it all on the woman. It's all Josie's fault he has been so boring and has never done a single entertaining thing in the house. It's her fault he repeatedly spat the dummy this week and refused to cooperate in the task. I don't like Josie, but I'm not going to pretend she made John James an arsehole.

[ste2010]

Well we all have our favourite housemate and we all hope that they will win. i just want to thank big brother for choosing John James as a HM. He is certainly my favourite this year. Tonight might be the last time we see him in the house - I hope he gets to stay next week but if he loses out in the vote then so be it. Whatever happens it has been a pleasure to watch him. I don't care what other people think on that - you will have enjoyed watching your favourite and i have enjoyed watching mine. Thanks all for the chat.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

No it didn't. John didn't tell Josie he loved her until after the newbies came in and even if he hadn't, it was only when they arrived that he began putting some effort into feigning interest in her. This is subjective anyway, come up with some facts before you take juvenile snipes at people.

"This is subjective anyway" ... nah .. wrong is wrong. That at it way before they aried the messages form home.
"come up with some facts before you take juvenile snipes at people.'
what? ... facts are they were an item before the vids aired ... and what is the bs about juvenile snipes. There was no "snipe" except you aversion to the word "FAIL" hehe.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

the thing is there's only 2 weeks left. it's time to start getting them out and saving our winner. all the true entertainment should have happened earlier.

the thumbsucking mare definitely ruined john james and her potiental by sticking to him like a fly on fecal matter

agree ... when he was mixing it with the hms it was all good. Josie time ... not good. The last month since Josie rubbished Keeva away and "claimed" her prize has been bad for JJ.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Ah, there we go. Blame it all on the woman. It's all Josie's fault he has been so boring and has never done a single entertaining thing in the house. It's her fault he repeatedly spat the dummy this week and refused to cooperate in the task. I don't like Josie, but I'm not going to pretend she made John James an arsehole.

Hmm where did I blame her only?

Josie definitely didn't make him an arsehole, he was definitely one before which is why if they'd spend less time in bed and cuddling, the entertainment that people are getting from him being a dick now, they would have gotten all this time, not just in these last 2 weeks.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Ah, there we go. Blame it all on the woman. It's all Josie's fault he has been so boring and has never done a single entertaining thing in the house. It's her fault he repeatedly spat the dummy this week and refused to cooperate in the task. I don't like Josie, but I'm not going to pretend she made John James an arsehole.

"Ah, there we go. Blame it all on the woman"
jesus?
so it's an example of women hating is it? God your drawing a very very long bow here.
JJ1 before the Josie, Keeva thing mixed with everyone in the house. After that he was glued to Josie. Fun to watch before, not so fun after( especially since I dislike Josie). But to you that's an example of "blame it on the women". Do you even know the connotations "blame it on the women" has? It's about rape and wife beating. Hardly appropriate here is it?

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by ange7

"This is subjective anyway" ... nah .. wrong is wrong. That at it way before they aried the messages form home.
"come up with some facts before you take juvenile snipes at people.'
what? ... facts are they were an item before the vids aired ...

How can you prove this? I don't remember any declarations of love from John James to Josie at the time.

and what is the bs about juvenile snipes. There was no "snipe" except you aversion to the word "FAIL" hehe.

Inappropriate use of the word 'aversion'. I would say 'fail', but it would suggest an immaturity that belies my age.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by ange7

"Ah, there we go. Blame it all on the woman"
jesus?
so it's an example of women hating is it? God your drawing a very very long bow here.
JJ1 before the Josie, Keeva thing mixed with everyone in the house. After that he was glued to Josie. Fun to watch before, not so fun after( especially since I dislike Josie). But to you that's an example of "blame it on the women". Do you even know the connotations "blame it on the women" has? It's about rape and wife beating. Hardly appropriate here is it?

I thought it related to misogyny in all forms. I'm sorry you drew that from what I said.