[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by TheBrilliantOne

Well guys, like I said in my OP, I'm waiting for PROOF.

If all these anti-Dave posters claim he is a 'con man' then prove it.

And I am waiting for proof from YOU

[fingers]

Originally Posted by TheBrilliantOne

Unless you're going to actually provide proof, you really have no business even making a post in this thread. I urge all members to regard your posts as spam until you can contribute properly to this thread.

Oh, My, joins 5 minutes ago and is already a Moderator! lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by TheBrilliantOne

Proof of what?

I'm merely asking questions.

The anti-Dave posters are making assertions.

Therefore, proof does not rest on the shoulders of the questioner, rather, the asserter.

Im waiting for proof Dave can do the things he claims he can ,and takes money for doing ,if you cannot provide that proof then Im sorry you have lost your childish tantrum

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by fingers

Oh, My, joins 5 minutes ago and is already a Moderator! lol

Power hungry these Daves disciples ?

[psychtracker]

The real irony here is that, even if every single one of these outrageous claims made by these haters were proven to be correct, it would in no way vindicate their cause because they've all publicly shown themselves up to be - vile, judgmental, spineless hatemongers who all consider themselves to be judge, jury and executioner on minimal proof and evidence. Everything they claim Dave to be - as a failed human being - they're actually enacting themselves each and everyday on these boards. End of story.

[WOMBAI]

Anyone who knows anything about the law - should know that the onus of proof is on the prosecution! If you make allegations against people - it is up to you to prove their guilt - not on them to prove their innocence!

[Livia]

I've never understood the hate against Dave to be honest. He believes what he believes... that's it. He hasn't claimed anything that other more established religons don't also claim. Look at Lourdes, a great money-spinner for the Catholics with not much actual proof that people are cured as a result of visiting. It's not like Dave's preaching hate against other religions or saying we're all going to burn in hell if we don't follow him. There are far more odious people in the world if you're looking for a witch hunt.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've never understood the hate against Dave to be honest. He believes what he believes... that's it. He hasn't claimed anything that other more established religons don't also claim. Look at Lourdes, a great money-spinner for the Catholics with not much actual proof that people are cured as a result of visiting. It's not like Dave's preaching hate against other religions or saying we're all going to burn in hell if we don't follow him. There are far more odious people in the world if you're looking for a witch hunt.

People just want to rant, seriously, some of 'em are enjoying it waaaay too much, it's not healthy

[Beso]

Look at all the paranoid freaks giving it large asking old worn out internet hardmen questions to a newbie..

"and you are"
"what is your association with dave"



what a sh!t forum this has ended up for the last week or two of the last bb...it's a shame...

[Kazanne]

There are vidoes on this forum somewhere

[stoney]

Originally Posted by coolestrock

ive seen many you tube videos of dave,,,,and i have to say that he makes me feel very uncomfortable with the claims he makes,,,,the guy is very creepy. Anyone making money from religion of any type is a conman or did god tell you to take money of ppl to make a living.

does that mean you condemn all clerics of all religions

or just the ones you dont like

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've never understood the hate against Dave to be honest. He believes what he believes... that's it. He hasn't claimed anything that other more established religons don't also claim. Look at Lourdes, a great money-spinner for the Catholics with not much actual proof that people are cured as a result of visiting. It's not like Dave's preaching hate against other religions or saying we're all going to burn in hell if we don't follow him. There are far more odious people in the world if you're looking for a witch hunt.

You need to look at the videos

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by stoney

does that mean you condemn all clerics of all religions

or just the ones you dont like

He is NOT a religion ,he has nothing to do with any CHURCH he runs a CULT very different

[Livia]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

People just want to rant, seriously, some of 'em are enjoying it waaaay too much, it's not healthy

It's been kind of rough in here over the last 24 hours. It's been like playing Millwall. Away. And without so much witty banter.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Dave is a nasty ******

he is supposed to be compassionate to people, but it is all fake bullsh**

he doesn't give a sh** about people at all

after Keeley got injured, few of them talkin about Corin carrying on

Dave said he would have carried on also and would have even broken her other ankle to make sure he won

that is not the view of a genuine follower of Jesus

he is scum of the earth

[Beso]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

Dave is a nasty ******

he is supposed to be compassionate to people, but it is all fake bullsh**

he doesn't give a sh** about people at all

after Keeley got injured, few of them talkin about Corin carrying on

Dave said he would have carried on also and would have even broken her other ankle to make sure he won

that is not the view of a genuine follower of Jesus

he is scum of the earth

see, thats a better read than posting some pxy link to youtube.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

see, thats a better read than posting some pxy link to youtube.

Them videos are REALLY bothering you arent they ?

[stoney]

Originally Posted by coolestrock
ive seen many you tube videos of dave,,,,and i have to say that he makes me feel very uncomfortable with the claims he makes,,,,the guy is very creepy. Anyone making money from religion of any type is a conman or did god tell you to take money of ppl to make a living.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He is NOT a religion ,he has nothing to do with any CHURCH he runs a CULT very different

chuff, my question was directed at the one who said that everyone that makes money out of religion is a con man?

so is every cleric of all religions, even small ones not affiliated to any church, simply a con man

[Beso]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Them videos are REALLY bothering you arent they ?

Not in the slightest.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's been kind of rough in here over the last 24 hours. It's been like playing Millwall. Away. And without so much witty banter.

Less gritted teeth at Millwall too.....erm maybe not...

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by TheBrilliantOne

I was reading this thread earlier today: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=156006

Ok, so I had problems viewing the clip (my connection is slow today) but from the negative comments about Dave lately, I'm calling out these people to actually provide evidence for their claims.

I've heard people claim that Dave is a 'con man'.

Prove it.

I want people who say these things to either back it up or stop with the anti-Dave posts. He's an entertaining HM and if Sam doesn't win, I hope Dave does. He's 2nd most entertaining in there and deserves respect for his many golden moments in the house.

Can you prove to me he isn't? If you can show me proof of him visiting the Sun I may have a rethink.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Can you prove to me he isn't? If you can show me proof of him visiting the Sun I may have a rethink.

No - the person that makes the allegations is the one required to prove it - British law!

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

No - the person that makes the allegations is the one required to prove it - British law!

Ok, I'll wait until Friday when he's booted out and ask him for the proof.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Not in the slightest.

You know they are ,and i know they are

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Ok, I'll wait until Friday when he's booted out and ask him for the proof.

Dave is not the one making the allegations. You are. If you claim he's a charlatan you're the one that has to prove it.

I thought I'd field that one for you WOMBAI :-)