[Chickie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She is the WORST type of girlfriend there would ever be ,shes too far up her own ass to ever make a go of a relationship,she is SO disloyal where JJ1 is concerned ,shes backstabbed him every chance shes had ,she didnt give a flying one when he was upset the other night ,in fact she was encouraging him to leave ,tonight we may have a few fake tears(not as many as when Govan left ,and she had only known him a few weeks, no "romance " ) but she will try he damndest to force a couple out ,she knows she will be getting camera time ,so she will use it to the max ,a terrible girlfirend,a vile hm8,and a nasty ,sly human being

Gee, are we watching the same show? I have no idea what you are watching. You say she is up herself. How so? I don't see her as a self involved person. Nor do I see her making herself out to be better than what she is.

If you hate her o.k. just say you hate her. But don't say she is up herself when she is clearly not. I could introduce you to a couple of girls that are so far up themselves you could turn them inside out. Then you might understand what the term "Up your self" really means. She is clearly an insecure girl, in saying that she is also very grounded.

And should she voice aloud her feelings or thoughts to others that's classed as backstabbing? God forbid she talk to any1 but John James about her thoughts or feelings. I mean no1 in the real world ever discusses personal issues, feelings or thoughts with their friends or family right? Don't want to be accused of backstabbing now do we. Pfff

I am not even a fan of Josie's'. To be honest this is maybe the second worst season I have ever watched, (we all know which season was the worst yes...lol) . But reading these forums, my gosh a lot of topics are based on dribble and/or bull**** and hate.

Now stop with the BS and just start a I hate Josie forum. At least then you are keeping it real and not posting dribble.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by MisterCool

I've read some of your posts here. You are the most stupid member on here and I've read Fingers' posts!



Yes you do.



If you disagree, you say so in private. To do otherwise is grossly disloyal. Your opinion on this is worthless btw but to show everyone else how your reasoning is flawed, I felt it appropriate to respond.

Pot, Kettle. Black!

[janaddy86]

I wouldn't go anywhere near her after I've seen the way she acts. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by MisterCool

I've read some of your posts here. You are the most stupid member on here and I've read Fingers' posts!


Yes you do.



If you disagree, you say so in private. To do otherwise is grossly disloyal. Your opinion on this is worthless btw but to show everyone else how your reasoning is flawed, I felt it appropriate to respond.

Excepting you of course!

Nah - I have a mind of my own thanks - and you don't sacrifice your belief in right and wrong for the sake of loyalty! It is overrated - and often used as an excuse to exert control over someone! You earn loyalty, you don't demand it - not even from a partner!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Chickie

Gee, are we watching the same show? I have no idea what you are watching. You say she is up herself. How so? I don't see her as a self involved person. Nor do I see her making herself out to be better than what she is.

If you hate her o.k. just say you hate her. But don't say she is up herself when she is clearly not. I could introduce you to a couple of girls that are so far up themselves you could turn them inside out. Then you might understand what the term "Up your self" really means. She is clearly an insecure girl, in saying that she is also very grounded.

And should she voice aloud her feelings or thoughts to others that's classed as backstabbing? God forbid she talk to any1 but John James about her thoughts or feelings. I mean no1 in the real world ever discusses personal issues, feelings or thoughts with their friends or family right? Don't want to be accused of backstabbing now do we. Pfff

I am not even a fan of Josie's'. To be honest this is maybe the second worst season I have ever watched, (we all know which season was the worst yes...lol) . But reading these forums, my gosh a lot of topics are based on dribble and/or bull**** and hate.

Now stop with the BS and just start a I hate Josie forum. At least then you are keeping it real and not posting dribble.

PLEASE do not shoot off at me ,when you have 6 points ,

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by janaddy86

I wouldn't go anywhere near her after I've seen the way she acts. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her.

Not many men would

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Josie is a bitch, a liar, she is ugly, fat, stinks, bad breath, no class, low sex drive, laughs like a witch, thick, annoying accent, lazy slob, looks at her own sh** and eats bogies

she not my type

[chuff me dizzy]

She doesnt give a flying one that JJ1 is leaving ,not a flying one

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

Josie is a bitch, a liar, she is ugly, fat, stinks, bad breath, no class, low sex drive, laughs like a witch, thick, annoying accent, lazy slob, looks at her own sh** and eats bogies

she not my type

Mine neither ,you are paying her far too many compliments for my liking

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

Josie is a bitch, a liar, she is ugly, fat, stinks, bad breath, no class, low sex drive, laughs like a witch, thick, annoying accent, lazy slob, looks at her own sh** and eats bogies

she not my type

So you dont like her

[jtalh2003]

according to the logic of the op you should side with a partner of a couple of months over a friend of several years because you should always side with your partner

loyalty is earned over time not given just because your partner thinks you should

[OnlySamShouldWin]

Originally Posted by Chickie

What world do you live in? Do women in relationships not have the right to speak their mind where you come from?

I believe the OP said this applies to everyone in relationships. And I agree with the OP.

I will stand by my man in pretty much any situation. But if he is making a twat of himself, is out of line, or is just being a argumentative dick, be dammed I will just sit there listen and nod. I would tell him so. And if he really loves you/her he will listen and take on board what you say. I am not saying he will change over it, but he should take it on board. John James doesn't, he just continues to argue and be a dick.

You would clearly be a nightmare girlfriend. If you sided with someone else (regardless if he's in the wrong) then he should dump you on the spot. If you disagree then say so in private, not in public.

[Chickie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

PLEASE do not shoot off at me ,when you have 6 points ,

WOW - So it comes down to points... Interesting. Guess what I had to say should be ignored then. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I appreciate it :P

Should I assume I need to reach 100 posts before I can post an opinion.. Hang on wait.... If I have to reach a certain amount of posts before I can post an opinion how many posts do I have to make before.. Ah forget it......

**New posters please be advised in the world according to chuff if you have not reached a certain amount of posts any opinion you have is irrelevant or is subject to sarcasm :P

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Chickie

WOW - So it comes down to points... Interesting. Guess what I had to say should be ignored then. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I appreciate it :P

Should I assume I need to reach 100 posts before I can post an opinion.. Hang on wait.... If I have to reach a certain amount of posts before I can post an opinion how many posts do I have to make before.. Ah forget it......

**New posters please be advised in the world according to chuff if you have not reached a certain amount of posts any opinion you have is irrelevant or is subject to sarcasm :P

Go troll off somewhere else ......

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by MisterCool

Ok, let's get one thing straight: if your so-called 'boyfriend' gets into an argument with someone (even a friend) you do not, repeat, DO NOT side with the friend.

Anyone who'd side with a friend over their partner/spouse is an awful investment and should be dumped immediately.

When John James and Corin were arguing the other night, Josie kept defending Corin and siding with her over her 'boyfriend'.

As a so-called partner, she should have either kept silent or sided with John James.

She showed herself to be incredibly DISLOYAL and any REAL MAN would have dumped her on the spot!

Anyone who'd take sides against their partner makes for an awful investment. No loyality=weak relationship.

MisterCool is MisterFool!

[uvhater]

you do not have to back your partner or agree with your partner very single time, especially if they are being a idiot and keep repeating the same point over and over again. John James just won't let something go. He also doesn't seem to support Josie, the thought the comment Sam Pepper made to her about the bikini was funny, IT WASN'T. He laughed it off. Pepper still doesn things to Josie that she doesn't like and he still says nothing. Obviously telling someone to stop it ain't enough. If you don't find it funny, why should you laugh it off.

How come John James doesn't know about BBLB or BBBM if he did any sort of research on the prog. Surely most people realise that they would be interviewed to some degree after going on a prog like that. Even a 30 sec interview on X Factor.

He is turning into a spoilt brat and and idiot. Heaven help his Mum.

[StGeorge]

In a way i agree with the OP on the matter of a certain degree of loyalty to friends/partners/family, but thats something that i believe strongly in myself. But i also agree with Wombai that loyalty can only go so far and sometimes you have to speak up.

In this case....i agreed with JJ1 & Sam (and Dave if you listen closely) about the makeup issue, as it sounded like that was a definite target due to Bob Righters words. Once Corin had said no then JJ1 was correct for saying the task was as well as shafted if people were doing their own thing.
Where i think Josie was then wrong, is that instead of just agreeing with Corin, she got very snappy at JJ1 and the look of anger on her face just reiterated what has been said in other threads about her change and aggression at him since the freepass. Disagreeing with a partner over something is best done in private, but she now chose to berate him in front of others with a ferocity that doesnt smack of a real loving relationship. She didnt back Corin up....she took the lead big time, and that to me is as disloyal as you can get.
Her attack on him again at fagland when he enquired about the "Sam up JJs arse" bit just made their relationship even more of just a gameplan. She seems to have taken it as her excuse to start questioning their relationship. Very convenient as its coming to the end and she is garanteed final status?

He needs to wake up fast, and give her some whilst he is still there....i'd respect him for that. But i think he will only find out once he has left how much she slags him off behind his back.

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by uvhater

you do not have to back your partner or agree with your partner very single time, especially if they are being a idiot and keep repeating the same point over and over again. John James just won't let something go. He also doesn't seem to support Josie, the thought the comment Sam Pepper made to her about the bikini was funny, IT WASN'T. He laughed it off. Pepper still doesn things to Josie that she doesn't like and he still says nothing. Obviously telling someone to stop it ain't enough. If you don't find it funny, why should you laugh it off..

I would agree except for a few points. When Sam was baiting Josie..her responce at times was to bite back and to also laugh. I found it difficult to tell if she was annoyed or playing as she said they had history before. She would say " i love him like a little brother..but he annoys me"..cackle cackle cackle. JJ1 face was always one of someone who didnt know when to laugh and was waiting on her responce before doing so. If she was that upset at Sams remarks, she should of had a go at him earlier and not joined in with the banter. Perhaps though this would not have been inline with her gameplan to be jolly Josie cackle cackle cackle.

Originally Posted by uvhater

He is turning into a spoilt brat and and idiot. Heaven help his Mum.

He was always a spoilt brat....from day one.

[Chickie]

Originally Posted by OnlySamShouldWin

I believe the OP said this applies to everyone in relationships. And I agree with the OP.



You would clearly be a nightmare girlfriend. If you sided with someone else (regardless if he's in the wrong) then he should dump you on the spot. If you disagree then say so in private, not in public.

Firstly, I don't take offense to your comment, I don't know you and you don't know me so your judgment means nothing to me. I am sure you have heard the story about water and ducks

PUBLIC...... Now let's break this down... Yes from our perspective it is public, we are the viewers after all.
In "REAL LIFE" I personally would never, ever bring up such an issue in public. Not every1 needs to know your business, my folks taught me better than that.

Anyway this is where we need to put it into perspective. Yes these guys know there are camera's around. But in saying that it does not mean they never let their guard down and forget about the camera's all be it for a brief period, they are human after all, let's not forget that. It is hard to fight human nature.
If you want to judge some1 for that, well that is entirely up to you. But me, I'm a realist. Fact is when people are upset with their partners chances are they will discuss with others. Like it or not that's generally how it goes.

[Chickie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Go troll off somewhere else ......

P.S - I almost forgot, if you reply to his sarcastic comments just once you now fall under the term "Troll"..
Again, thanks for teaching me chuff. Whatever would I do without you

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by Chickie

If you want to judge some1 for that, well that is entirely up to you. But me, I'm a realist. Fact is when people are upset with their partners chances are they will discuss with others. Like it or not that's generally how it goes.

That is a very good point Chickie, in that when relationships falter..most will go and seek solace with someone else and relay their woes accordingly.
But....to then have it out in front of a crowd would not be the done thing.
I would only agree to this if the dominant partner (usually male) was a violent bully and so speaking up can only be done with back up.

JJ1 is alot of things, but he doesnt smack of being a violent bully....i think if most girls were to slap him he'd buckle like Basil.

[Chickie]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

That is a very good point Chickie, in that when relationships falter..most will go and seek solace with someone else and relay their woes accordingly.
But....to then have it out in front of a crowd would not be the done thing.
I would only agree to this if the dominant partner (usually male) was a violent bully and so speaking up can only be done with back up.

JJ1 is alot of things, but he doesnt smack of being a violent bully....i think if most girls were to slap him he'd buckle like Basil.

I totally agree StGeorge, public or in front of a crowd is not on in my opinion, unless it is for the reason you stated above.

I have merely tried to point out the facts, that being most people in the real world when upset with their partners will talk with friends or family, it's a fact. We can't hold it against those in the house for doing what we in the real world would do. Just because there are cameras on these guys 24x7 doesn't make them backstabbers, they are just reacting like everyone in the real world would.

Also, I don't see John James as a violent person either. Perhaps mentally destructive, but not violent. Although I do think his a twat...lol

[astrozombiee]

Josie doesn't have to side with him on everything he say's just because they're meant to be together. If he's wrong she has the right to tell him and have her opinion. Everyonee is an individual - I wouldn't dare agree with everything my boyfriend says because what relationship is that? there not equals if tthat happens. John James is in the wrong and Josie is big and strong enough to understand it and not get swayed by the fact he's quite pretty (even though I find him WAY unattractive, and not just his horrible bolshy personality.)
He tells her he loves her and that he wants to move to Bristol to be near here (probably because he thinks she's going to snag the £100,000) but where was he when Josie disagree'd with people? She argued with Sam and JJ1 sided with Sammy (so did I, but he's supposed to love her) so why should she side with him over her friend?

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She doesnt give a flying one that JJ1 is leaving ,not a flying one

Your right she does'nt care, everyone is on the sofa and she is in the kitchen feeding her face she does'nt give a toss about anyone but herself.

[yousoboo!]

Josie keeps it real. I'd respect my girlfriend more if she told me when i was being a d***.