[Burgz]

Anyone get the feeling YOU GUYS ARE READING INTO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL A LITTLE TOO MUCH 'CAUSE YOU WANNA HATE?!

[Zippy]

Sam wouldnt try half his tricks in the real world. Just like John James he only acted up because he was in a safe, protected enviroment where nobody could do him physical harm.

And just like John James he blubbed like a baby when pulled up about his behaviour! Both toytown rebels.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Dont think so. You've never liked her so....

Josie has shown all sides to herself in that house; she's been crabby, she's been funny, she's been jealous, domineering.....everything really. So I dont see how you can say all that is scheming?

Four weeks back she was well out of the running. Down and out. Disliked. Truth is, all her bad side has only appeared over John James. All the doubts and emotional angst she's been through over him. His lack of loving gestures etc.

Away from him I will defend her hugely because I think she's been great. Kinda like Kate lawler in the way she mixes well with both boys and girls. Tomboyish.

Nah, she's incredibly manipulative and spiteful, full of insecurities and quite vindictive too. Don't be fooled by the "banter" and the cackle - she's extremely aware of how she wrapped the house around her finger. Interesting to see how this UBB thing develops though,

[cath03]

Originally Posted by Burgz

Anyone get the feeling YOU GUYS ARE READING INTO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL A LITTLE TOO MUCH 'CAUSE YOU WANNA HATE?!

If anyone's got hate in them, it's Josie. What has Coolio done to her for her to hide his cigarettes, despite him dishing them out to her, and then wanting Sam in to sort him out?

This is your lovely winner.

[Stevep]

Seriously some of the people on this forum are as bad as John James. Paranoid, cynical and constantly reading too much into things.

Originally Posted by Burgz

Anyone get the feeling YOU GUYS ARE READING INTO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL A LITTLE TOO MUCH 'CAUSE YOU WANNA HATE?!

This.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by cath03

If anyone's got hate in them, it's Josie. What has Coolio done to her for her to hide his cigarettes, despite him dishing them out to her, and then wanting Sam in to sort him out?

This is your lovely winner.

OH MY GOD SHE HID HIS CIGARETTES?!?!?!

She must be evil

Seriously move on.

She won the show with 77.4% of the votes

[cath03]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Seriously some of the people on this forum are as bad as John James. Paranoid, cynical and constantly reading too much into things.



This.

I disagree with the paranoia part of your post, but as for the rest of it, isn't that what a Big Brother forum is for? I.e. analysing and reading into the housemates tactics?

[Burgz]

Originally Posted by cath03

If anyone's got hate in them, it's Josie. What has Coolio done to her for her to hide his cigarettes, despite him dishing them out to her, and then wanting Sam in to sort him out?

This is your lovely winner.

Perhaps everybody should be perfect then you'd have nothing to pick up on!

Anyway the missing Sam thing was probably more to do with Coolio than anything, due to the fact Sam spoke his mind & talked a lot of sense he might have actually shut Coolio up a little.



Even though i really like Josie, i think you're giving her a little TOO much credit

[cath03]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

OH MY GOD SHE HID HIS CIGARETTES?!?!?!

She must be evil

Seriously move on.

She won the show with 77.4% of the votes

Yeah....hilarious, uh? Pulling pranks that (ironically) she hated Sam doing. The same Sam that she now misses....lol

Hypocritical much?

And like I said before, what has Coolio done to deserve it? And has she owned up to it yet and returned them?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by cath03

Yeah....hilarious, uh? Pulling pranks that (ironically) she hated Sam doing. The same Sam that she now misses....lol

Hypocritical much?

And like I said before, what has Coolio done to deserve it? And has she owned up to it yet and returned them?

Im off for a wank

ta ta x

[Part-timer]

I saw a bit of the live feed there and she's out of her depth.
Brian Dowling wins this he has too much personality for everyone.
She was talking to him in the kitchen and doing the randy farmer routine that had crab eyes captivated during bb11. Brian didn't even manage a grin..
Just goes to show what an utterly pathetic group of housemates bb11 had.

The more i watch the farmer the more i think see she's a one trick poney.
Namely say something self depricating about your self and follow it up with a loud ignorant laugh.
Then mention John James.

People in there arn't buying it and they don't give a fook about crab eyes. (mr personality) neither.
Why dosn't she just go.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Im off for a wank

ta ta x

*hands Daniel a box of tissues and a picture of Nadia in a mankini*

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by cath03

I disagree with the paranoia part of your post, but as for the rest of it, isn't that what a Big Brother forum is for? I.e. analysing and reading into the housemates tactics?

Yeh tbh you're right, but like John James there is just WAY too much cynicism and blind hatred for some housemates in peoples analysist.

Analysing someone is fair enough but SOO many comments on here are just way off the mark imo. Again im not a big Josie fan, but any sane human being can she is an honest, funny and caring person. Fair enough if you dont like her as a housemate, but some of the comments that she is fake, shallow and all the rest are just ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure most people on here would get on with Josie if given the chance, not sure where all the hatred comes from? Bitterness because their hm didnt win? Ridiculous either way.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Seriously some of the people on this forum are as bad as John James. Paranoid, cynical and constantly reading too much into things.

Yeah I agree, I hate how housemates now have their every action extensively scrutunised to see if they are playing a game, see if they're fake etc.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Yeh tbh you're right, but like John James there is just WAY too much cynicism and blind hatred for some housemates in peoples analysist.

Analysing someone is fair enough but SOO many comments on here are just way off the mark imo. Again im not a big Josie fan, but any sane human being can she is an honest, funny and caring person. Fair enough if you dont like her as a housemate, but some of the comments that she is fake, shallow and all the rest are just ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure most people on here would get on with Josie if given the chance, not sure where all the hatred comes from? Bitterness because their hm didnt win? Ridiculous either way.

You see, I'm moderately sane and I don't believe she's those things. Actually, quite the opposite in alot of ways.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Yeh tbh you're right, but like John James there is just WAY too much cynicism and blind hatred for some housemates in peoples analysist.

Analysing someone is fair enough but SOO many comments on here are just way off the mark imo. Again im not a big Josie fan, but any sane human being can she is an honest, funny and caring person. Fair enough if you dont like her as a housemate, but some of the comments that she is fake, shallow and all the rest are just ridiculous.

There is nothing insane about understanding that Josie's ostensibly redeeming personality traits can easily be feigned by someone with the sufficient cunning. In fact, it is extremely naive and disingenuous to think it can't.

I'm pretty sure most people on here would get on with Josie if given the chance, not sure where all the hatred comes from? Bitterness because their hm didnt win? Ridiculous either way.

Nothing to do with that. Just the fact that she is a compulsive liar and an extremely malicious gossip while maintaining a false outward appearance of the simple, jovial, self-deprecating young girl without a vane bone in her body.

[smudgie]

When Sam was evicted Josie hugged him and said to him "I love you Sam Pepper" a couple of times, all this after hearing the massive cheers he got when his name was called.
Very telling.

[big_bother]

Originally Posted by Zippy

And Sam is so overrated anyways. Just a load of kids getting excited over a childish prat really.

Yar!

[Shardlake]

Originally Posted by cath03

No sooner than Brian tells her that Sam Pepper was favourite to win at one point, she goes to the bathroom for a cry and then the next thing she's telling people that she misses Sam and wishes he was put in. To make matters worse, she not only wants him in because she misses him, but wants him to sort Coolio out.

So she doesn't mention missing her darling John James, JJ, Coirin, Dave or anyone else that she spent more time with and was apparently so close to............no it's Sam she misses.

Okay Josie, we believe you. Nothing at all about trying to win over his fans and overtaking you as a favourite at one time.

And this woman isn't conniving or manipulative?

Do you honestly think she even cares about this show now?

She clearly just wants to go home now, to me she even looked dissapointed when she was asked to go back in but felt she had to.

[cath03]

Originally Posted by Shardlake

Do you honestly think she even cares about this show now?

She clearly just wants to go home now, to me she even looked dissapointed when she was asked to go back in but felt she had to.

It's interesting that since the events of certain talks that she's had with Brian and Nadia and learning certain snippets of information about the outside world, that she now wishes to go home. I believe that a lot of that information has not been to Josie's liking at all.

Perhaps she feels that the longer she remains, her carefully crafted personna will be rumbled by housemates who are a lot more astute and savvy than she is. Nadia for example, told her that the Keeva situation didn't come across well for Josie. Brian, Nadia, John and Makosi have all made reference to John James that again hasn't pleased Josie.

I think it's a combination of between knowing that if these housemates are taking Keeva's side of things, then Josie knows that she's not going to get away with those tactics.......that and what she must be thinking about the outside world with the John James situation.

And to be fair....I'm sure she also misses her friends and family. She's not inhuman, just not a very appealing person for reasons that have already been posted on the thread.

[Stacey.]

Not really, because yeah Sam annoyed her and everything, but they did actually get on well most of the time.

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by cath03

No sooner than Brian tells her that Sam Pepper was favourite to win at one point, she goes to the bathroom for a cry and then the next thing she's telling people that she misses Sam and wishes he was put in. To make matters worse, she not only wants him in because she misses him, but wants him to sort Coolio out.

So she doesn't mention missing her darling John James, JJ, Coirin, Dave or anyone else that she spent more time with and was apparently so close to............no it's Sam she misses.

Okay Josie, we believe you. Nothing at all about trying to win over his fans and overtaking you as a favourite at one time.

And this woman isn't conniving or manipulative?

Unbelievable how people on here twist things round to match their own warped minds.

[cath03]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

Not really, because yeah Sam annoyed her and everything, but they did actually get on well most of the time.

My point is though, that out of all the housemates that were in the house, she says she misses Sam the most. No mention at all of John James, Andrew, Dave, Corin or JJ.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. I think she's every bit as competitive as ever and saying to the nation that she misses Sam, is like putting a message out there to his fans to back her. Especially when she found out that he was the closest to her in terms of favouritism.

Nothing else makes sense since he was her nemesis in the house regardless of how chummy they became afterwards, and if that's even true and not just a case of keeping the peace to appease John James. Sam supported Mario and John James, not Josie.

[cath03]

Originally Posted by sosadbbend

Unbelievable how people on here twist things round to match their own warped minds.

If you disagree, then say so. I don't have a warped mind. I'm just good at reading through bullcrap like Josie's manipulations, that's all.

[truthseeker]

She obviously didnt realise how popular Sam is. When she tried to bich about him, None of them would have it. She tried to turn the house against Sam before and it didnt work.