[daniel-lewis-1985]

[MassiveTruck]

People are sick of seeing Nadia.

Everyone on the other forums and on Twitter have told me that.

The behaviour from Nadia has been the most disgusting, petulant and aggressive monstrousness they have shown. I also know a few more things about this and how Endemol have reacted because of it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I honestly think people gave up when Josie left.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I honestly think people gave up when Josie left.

They seem to have given up posting on TiBB as well!

[arista]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I honestly think people gave up when Josie left.

Rubbish


she was a slob

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by arista

Rubbish


she was a slob

A slob who 77% of the viewers voted for.

When she left it kinda put a downer on the show

[LaLaLand]

She only really got 77% because she had no competition in the final, well mild competition in Dave.

If she was in the final with Corin then I reckon it'd be much less, like 20%+ lower.

I'm really enjoying UBB and it's ending anyway so ratings won't bother me. Die hard BB fans keep watching!

[Vladimir]

[DigitalSid]

Already posted, it's disappointing but not unexpected imo.

[Jack_]

Awful. I know I'm going to sound biased because I want Sam back in but I would suggest they maybe send a BB11 housemate back in.

I know they weren't great but it's familiar and if it's true that they switched off cause Josie left then it might help things seeing a familiar face...

[luminoussun]

daniel your a big brother fan...josie is just a character from bb11...you need to take her pictures down and stop crying every night because your precious josie quit.
Don't let it ruin the end of bb for you...at least you have brian

[Legend killer]

lol so BB11 was cut short for a series which is getting lower ratings than BB11 gt what a joke

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

She only really got 77% because she had no competition in the final, well mild competition in Dave.

If she was in the final with Corin then I reckon it'd be much less, like 20%+ lower.

I'm really enjoying UBB and it's ending anyway so ratings won't bother me. Die hard BB fans keep watching!

She was still the favourite for most of the series.

I will still watch right till the end but i just think its not getting the viewing figures it deserves.

X factor was 1.3 million down on its previous episode aswell though so maybe the bank holiday weekend has got soething to do with it ?

Who know's

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by luminoussun

daniel your a big brother fan...josie is just a character from bb11...you need to take her pictures down and stop crying every night because your precious josie quit.
Don't let it ruin the end of bb for you...at least you have brian

My precious josie? Who are you some character from lord of the rings?


Itsnot ruining it for me im enjoying the series but when Josie left i know alot of people were pissed off.

[humourwins]

I was a fan of Josie and really glad she won, but come on we all know that if she had been in the final two she wouldn't have won by 77.5%. The production team knew that people were waiting to see who was in the final two so they could pile on the anti-Josie vote. I am sure this happens most years. Hence why the final margin is much closer. We never get to see the actual percentages at each vote off round, i.e. last 5, last 4 etc. so we never really know how clear the win was.

Well if people feel so strongly about it, why don't they petition for her to go back.

If UBB is not working it is because they put in too many "celebs" and are so desperate for a Chantelle-Preston romance. We had JJJ thrust down our throats all summer and people don't want a repeat. BB will be largely remember for the humour, the arguments and tasks not the fauxmances.

[LaLaLand]

Good point with it being Bank Holiday! That could be a valid reason seeing as EVERYONE goes out.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by humourwins

I was a fan of Josie and really glad she won, but come on we all know that if she had been in the final two she wouldn't have won by 77.5%. The production team knew that people were waiting to see who was in the final two so they could pile on the anti-Josie vote. I am sure this happens most years. Hence why the final margin is much closer. We never get to see the actual percentages at each vote off round, i.e. last 5, last 4 etc. so we never really know how clear the win was.

Well if people feel so strongly about it, why don't they petition for her to go back.

If UBB is not working it is because they put in too many "celebs" and are so desperate for a Chantelle-Preston romance. We had JJJ thrust down our throats all summer and people don't want a repeat. BB will be largely remember for the humour, the arguments and tasks not the fauxmances.

[ElProximo]

Bank holiday and this is the one where everyone tries to get out and about for the last of Summer holidays.

A lot of people are still insisting on comparing UBB as if they were comparing a new season to a previous season. It is really a unique special type of thing that might see different ratings at different times.

One thing I do know is that its hilarious, great fun, brilliant writing, tasks, ideas and more than anything great to have this 'one last hurrah' and reminisce and be sentimental,
and,
maybe for a lot of us this is the time for some 'closure' in some wacky psychological way.
Maybe this even explains so much of the resentment that just appeared lately??

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

A slob who 77% of the viewers voted for.

When she left it kinda put a downer on the show

77% of the voting viewers. who were manipulated by the show to vote for her.

Once the gloss of that manipulation wears off then they can see her for what she is.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

77% of the voting viewers. who were manipulated by the show to vote for her.

Once the gloss of that manipulation wears off then they can see her for what she is.

I was not manipulated to vote for Josie. I liked her as a person and not just from highlights but from watching ALOT of live feed.

Dont patronise me and everyone else that voted for her.

Bitterness is a very unattractive quality in a person.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I was not manipulated to vote for Josie. I liked her as a person and not just from highlights but from watching ALOT of live feed.

Dont patronise me and everyone else that voted for her.

Bitterness is a very unattractive quality in a person.

It's not bitterness at all.

I can't for the life of me see what is attractive about somebody who lied every single day she was in the house and manipulated the situation by having a fake romance - because seriously, if what people saw between Josie and JJ is romance - the world is doomed!!

And she stirred up so much rubbish on a regular basis it is laughable so what do you have left? The manipulation from the show. That's it.

It's TV at it's best. Force them to like somebody by hiding their worst traits.

And to be honest, I feel patronised when somebody tells me the weren't manipulated by what they saw on the show!

[Tom4784]

still good ratings for a nightly show.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

It's not bitterness at all.

I can't for the life of me see what is attractive about somebody who lied every single day she was in the house and manipulated the situation by having a fake romance - because seriously, if what people saw between Josie and JJ is romance - the world is doomed!!

And she stirred up so much rubbish on a regular basis it is laughable so what do you have left? The manipulation from the show. That's it.

It's TV at it's best. Force them to like somebody by hiding their worst traits.

And to be honest, I feel patronised when somebody tells me the weren't manipulated by what they saw on the show!

Your are very bitter that Josie won and your also quite cynical in thinking that she only won because everyone who voted for her where manipulated by television. How can you say i was manipulated when i watched live feed around the clock and judged her by that and not an edit?

Give me an example of Josie "Lying everyday"

Your very over dramatic(the world is doomed for believing jjj was real)

I persoanlly think john james didnt have true feelings for Josie but Josie did form him

Why do you even watch a show that you think manipulates the public?

just accept Josie won because people liked her.

Or is that such a bitter pill to swallow

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Your are very bitter that Josie won and your also quite cynical in thinking that she only won because everyone who voted for her where manipulated by television. How can you say i was manipulated when i watched live feed around the clock and judged her by that and not an edit?

Who the hell gives you the right to call people bitter and cynical? You just want to throw around words like that just like you do with homophobia just to bring people down.

What bloody high horse do you exist on? I can't for the life in me ever remember meeting somebody online who thinks they've got a clear cut right to utterly rip apart people on a utterly pseudo, completely pseudo self-righteous assault.

So let me just give you a taste of the same medicine shall I.

You say you watched live feed? Then you must have seen her bitching and lying about other housemates on a regular basis for 8 weeks on the trot. If you didn't then it is clear you are lying and you are basing this whole situation on gross blind favouritism as an utter dislike for another housemate.

Now that we know that is clearly fact and utterly realistic that she was a vile individual who targeted individuals and lied about them, spreading vicious rumour and manipulation around the house - what do you like about that as an individual? Are these the grounds upon which you base your morality and ethics? It wouldn't surprise me with the way that you throw around accusation, insult and abuse on this forum to be honest so I am barely surprised at you enjoying the spectacle of somebody like Josie winning the show.

In fact... it appears to be a simple case of birds of a feather flock together, doesn't it?

And it is TV manipulation. Those of us who know the industry, who have worked with people, who have talked to professionals can see this occurring from miles off. We can read off accounts from World Wars and Radio broadcasts and see how masses of sheep clearly follow suit like lemmings off a cliff. It's such a simple phenomenon to observe that I for one can't see how somebody who treats the people around them like utter sh*te on a daily basis and stirs up trouble in the house can be seen by her fans to appear to live in some fairyland that those around them wouldn't take to task their belief that we can't see this and we are wrong even though we watched this on a regular daily basis and saw the lies.

It's utterly pathetic that you think we take this as a matter of course.

It's brutal manipulation. Clear and utter manipulation.

I could say, it is favouritism. It is bias. It's the same way that people look up to some cult leader and wouldn't like to give them blame but anybody who can't see how Sam Pepper came in to raise her profile along with Andrew, chose her over others who had more votes and then they had a vote to evict and also stirred up arguments to get them out

STILL thinks there was no manipulation...

does nothing... nothing at all.. for their credit and credability!!

It's blatant. If you couldn't see it in the final weeks, it beggars belief what else you can fall for.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Give me an example of Josie "Lying everyday"

Ha! You didn't watch live feed.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Your very over dramatic(the world is doomed for believing jjj was real)

The world is doomed because that is not romance. It's idiotic. I pity any individual in the world who sees romance in that because they have not only not lived but they have no emotion to notice romance. Disgusting!...

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I persoanlly think john james didnt have true feelings for Josie but Josie did form him

LOL

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Why do you even watch a show that you think manipulates the public?

NEWSFLASH!!

ALL TV manipulates. ALL OF IT DOES!! PMSL

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

just accept Josie won because people liked her.

No... we know better than that that's why we educate ourselves. The knowledge is out there. People like John De Mol make billions from it because they know people can be manipulated.

Don't you get it? Don't you really get it? Let me explain it to you.

They know how to manipulate you and TV was created for that sole purpose to sell you things by manipulating you.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Or is that such a bitter pill to swallow

You must be living in LA LA Land if you think the win and loss of this show matters. The win and loss of a monkey throwing competition in a pig sty in Glasgow doesn't bother me but if people manipulated millions because of it - you're damn right I'll laugh my head off at the people who were manipulated by it year on year.

Just as I laughed when they desperately wanted Mikey to win (and I know people at Endemol who will vouch for this) and Rachel won!

Just like I know how desperate they were and what lengths they went to for Josie to win!

There are some things you will never even get close to understanding. There are people who work in TV year after year and never grasp this and it's those that do that make the money... funnily enough they invest in products they sell at Asda/Sainsburys/Tescos...

Can you put the pieces together?

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

A slob who 77% of the viewers voted for.

When she left it kinda put a downer on the show

She only got that because no one else bothered voting for the other 4 who had fans but people just didn't vote because we all knew that idiot Josie would win.

So ******ing over rated.