[Mac Hiavellian]

This isn't supposed to be another 'Tonight was sh!t' thread. It's about learning from mistakes.

There's so many ex HMs I've wanted to see interact with each other, and I've always wanted a 'Winners only' series but what good actually comes from this?

BB7 - Nikki, love her or hate her, it was totally unacceptable for her to return and be eligible to win, and even her own fans admitted they thought she was an actress during her return and this was a big crack in BB's lifespan

CBB5 - JADE, again, love her or hate her the first time round, CBB ruined her

And now UBB - Makosi and Nadia reduced to tears tonight and still the crowd boo

If BB does return it should focus ONLY on the future and not look back and bring the 'stars' back because it'll only ruin the image it created for them the first time around

[onecolu]

Agreed.

[ILoveTRW]

But thats only looking at the negative, Brian, Victor and Chantelle are all doing great.

[onecolu]

And Nick.

[iRyan]

I do agree ILoveTRW....

Nikki, Nick, Victor, Brian, and Chantelle are all becoming even more popular than they were before by being on this.

It's not all bad.

Makosi was hated on BB6 as well, so it's not suprise. The only suprise is Nadia.

[ILoveTRW]

Really you can take any series and say that it ruined peoples lives
BB1, Nick
BB2, Penny lost her teaching job because BB showed her pussy on tv
BB3, Adele, Tim and Jade all came out hated
The list goes on.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

But thats only looking at the negative, Brian, Victor and Chantelle are all doing great.

I agree with that, but the viewers already seem to have preconceptions about the more volatile characters that they can't seem to shake i.e. with Makosi. And Nadia was villified for standing up to other classic HMs, so obviously one of the favourites would come across as in the wrong. It must be tougher on her going in to the house as a winner, or at least generally favoured, and exiting to accusations and boos. It was kind of like Jade all over again

In the long run the negatives are more severe than the positives

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by iRyan

I do agree ILoveTRW....

Nikki, Nick, Victor, Brian, and Chantelle are all becoming even more popular than they were before by being on this.

It's not all bad.

Makosi was hated on BB6 as well, so it's not suprise. The only suprise is Nadia.

I'll admit I'm pleasantly surprised at how I respect Victor more this time round, and some of the HMs remain popular, however like I said Makosi struggled to shake of that public opinion so now she's been stung by BB twice, and now Nadia's fallen far from a winner to a villain figure

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

Really you can take any series and say that it ruined peoples lives
BB1, Nick
BB2, Penny lost her teaching job because BB showed her pussy on tv
BB3, Adele, Tim and Jade all came out hated
The list goes on.

That's another valid point. BB can ruin lives the first time round which is why HMs are given the 'talk of doom', but with ex HMs and Celeb HMs the pressure is more intense because of hwo it'll affect their public image.

I think adding former HMs also shows signs of favouritism or desperation, which both knock the show's credibility.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

But thats only looking at the negative, Brian, Victor and Chantelle are all doing great.

This and Nick is doing a full on Alex Reid on us only he won't win.

So it's not all bad.
But I agree if BB is picked up, none of this bollocks again.

Yes they should get the ex HMs on BBLB and that but not on the show.

Had Jade not of entered Celebrity Big Brother 2007 then we would be watching Sam Pepper, Corin, John and them right now and not the last week of Big Brother.

We would all be talking about who will be going into CBB8 and how good BB12 will be and that.

But now it's over thanks to Jade.

[onecolu]

harsh, lot of reasons why bb is at its deathbed

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

BB2, Penny lost her teaching job because BB showed her pussy on tv
.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by Patrick

This and Nick is doing a full on Alex Reid on us only he won't win.

So it's not all bad.
But I agree if BB is picked up, none of this bollocks again.

Yes they should get the ex HMs on BBLB and that but not on the show.

Had Jade not of entered Celebrity Big Brother 2007 then we would be watching Sam Pepper, Corin, John and them right now and not the last week of Big Brother.

We would all be talking about who will be going into CBB8 and how good BB12 will be and that.

But now it's over thanks to Jade.

You mean CBB9 lol? BB:CH wouldn't have happened

What I find strange about the Nasty Nick business is that everyone admits it was actually quite tame and that it was blown way out of proportion, but didn't Nadia just bitch and state her opinion yet this is what happens to her 10 years later?

Perhaps it is just a case of 'rent-a-mob' not reflecting what everyone else thought and makign things seemingly worse. Maybe Makosi and Nadia have shed their tears and tomorrow will be a sunny day again for them both. But it was uncomfortable viewing and they'll still think back about this experience not being as great as the first