[Shasown]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Exactly. If they'd shown the footage then there would have been no argument and everyone outside the house would, in some way, understand Nadias reaction. By not showing anything they give us the impression that they've got something to hide.

True, they should have.

There is a possibility though no one saw anything transphobic in his curiousity and simply put it down to just that curiousity, a little distasteful.

If they start admitting he did ask the other girls whether Nadia had a penis, the witchhunters would jump on any footage claiming ALL Nadia's claims must be true and BB is operating a coverup.

[fuzzylovin]

Nardia is too much of a diva, but she wasnt hurting anyone and didnt deserve the stuff coollio did to her.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Shasown

True, they should have.

There is a possibility though no one saw anything transphobic in his curiousity and simply put it down to just that curiousity, a little distasteful.

If they start admitting he did ask the other girls whether Nadia had a penis, the witchhunters would jump on any footage claiming ALL Nadia's claims must be true and BB is operating a coverup.

I agree.

In many ways it already looks like a cover up due to the lack of footage and various HM's all stating the same thing.

Once again the producers have show themselves to be completely inept when dealing with controversial HM's.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Coolio was obviously provoking her and mocking her. Then he took her property to taunt her more.

But he's innocent?

Yeah good luck with that! And please quit acting like youre an expert on everything...its cringey. Now you speak for all Americans on how they view sex change operations? Er, no you do not!

And Nadia fancied him? WTF? You just throw all kinds of random crap into your posts! Im pretty sure he's not her type or any other womans with taste. Truth is, Nadia has her guard up against macho dickheads like him and Jason(BB5). Probably the type of grunting chauvinists that have plagued her life and given her the most stress.

Nadia is far from perfect and certainly has a temper. But Coolio was the antagonist in the house. He started it, she finished it.

LOL

Yeah, everything is right apart from when you speak the truth about protest groups.

I am sure Nadia would take anything that moves.

America is and always will be a country that has a certain view on things and in California, yes, for a certain group of people Trans-sexuals are seen as simply a fetish. It depends upon perspective and that perspective comes from life experience on how people are and what they do and if you think Coolio doesn't have it and hasn't been places then you're just another TV watching rent a charity protester who believes any old wish for money with a Take That/Boyzone soundtrack.

Cue, Marco and Nadia wanting money for their plight because there has been homophobia and transphobia on TV - OH NO! OH NO! DIG DEEP BRITAIN!

Hmm... Jason, Coolio, Victor, Brian, Brian, Sophie Reade, Ulrika... Erm... Everybody in the world that disagrees with her? Yeah? YAA!

You just think the person who shouts the loudest is right.

[Zippy]

So much tosh in that post I really dont know where to start! Ive never said anything about protests groups or Nadia always being right. Regards her altercations with Coolio he's the one who started it and declared war. She just wasnt prepared to take his crap.

Firstly you generalise about Americans and now youve reduced it to "a certain group of people in California" who see Transexuality as a fetish? Wow thats a big adjustment! LMAO

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Nadia, did, fail, the psych test. That is a definite. She should not have been on the show.

What Brian said is hearsay. We don't know if that happened. Brian might very well be making things up but even if he isn't we are looking at Coolio from the US where they are not as idiotic, to use a word, as the Big Brother audience and would call anybody who steps forward to have their genitals removed with a boob job, pointless... it doesn't need the commercialised push it requires over there. It's seen as a sex fetish where Coolio is from anyway - different cultures, different perspectives.

Alluding to having a close connection to the show isn't convincing, at all! You do it alot! You have no more idea on whether Nadia failed or passed the psych test than any of us.

Brian wasn't the only hm to talk about the way Coolio behaved towards Nadia. Nick, Dullrika, Preston and Chantelle were also involved in the conversation. They explained in quite a bit of detail to Vanessa exactly what had been going on. Coolio constantly referred to Nadia as 'they' and 'it'. He also asked on a number of occasions for the others to put their hands up her skirt to see if she had a penis. He did all this despite Nadia going into great detail about what she'd been through, including all the surgery, on day 2 in a chat with Coolio in the bathroom. I guess the ignorant ******er forgot, right? Or maybe he's an offensive bigot.

Makosi has also backed up these claims in an interview after her eviction.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Which wouldnt really be out of the ordinary if he had already asked Nadia if she was pre or post op and she hadnt answered him except to angrily snap about her privacy and his aggression etc, would it?

Coolio knew what Nadia had been through, including all of the surgery after having a very calm, normal chat in the bathroom with her on the evening of day 2. No anger, no snapping.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Let's cut to the chase.

Nadia is an angry, aggressive, monstrous, pathetic, idiotic, foolish, nasty, disgusting, whiny, spoilt, selfish, bitter etc etc person.

Marco lied. Marco is fishing for publicity. He was not chosen for the show. He wasn't even looked at and this is because of his behaviour during BB5 which led to the problems on "fight night". He was left out - is anybody surprised he was left out looking at how he hasn't changed since then.

Nadia, did, fail, the psych test. That is a definite. She should not have been on the show.

What Brian said is hearsay. We don't know if that happened. Brian might very well be making things up but even if he isn't we are looking at Coolio from the US where they are not as idiotic, to use a word, as the Big Brother audience and would call anybody who steps forward to have their genitals removed with a boob job, pointless... it doesn't need the commercialised push it requires over there. It's seen as a sex fetish where Coolio is from anyway - different cultures, different perspectives.

Why don't you ask yourself why Nadia was laughing when he left? Why don't you ask yourself why everything was fine after she left? Or... why not ask yourself why Nadia had other targets and victims after she left? What did Ulrika do to her for screaming like a escaped lunatic? Why is it just people you have someone to blame?

OH NO! COOLIO SAID SOMETHING!!

OH NO! DAVINA SAID SOMETHING!

Why not? What Nadia said? Why not... consider how politicised the lot of you are that you can't see how manipulated you are not only by the commercialisation around you but also the politics? If you want hi-brow is this a difficult area to step in because it will take the fun away from the *******ing Witch Hunt??

So, Coolio left mutually. That's what we were told and that is what happened. Nadia probably fancied him and didn't like how she came in thinking she would win with her second chance at glory and the other girls were getting all the attention from Coolio. For some bizarre reason were supposed to believe that Coolio was some fantasy for the protest groups and we should string him up against a tree so the protesters with their s**t lives have something to do.

So... am I surprised by the reaction? No.

Why? Well it's Big Brother and as somebody else said, it's not Newsnight. You, the audience, all of you, are watching a zoo, a charade, a bunch of exhibitionist attention seekers. You watched Nadia and you chose to judge her and look at her. No offence to anybody but Nadia is still a man and that is because she needs hormones, make up, surgery at extensive life threatening levels to keep this up. Nothing proves otherwise and if it did, the extent to which she has to do this proves that is hardly the case because if you are somebody why need thousands upon thousands of pounds every year to keep it up?

Then again, if you think you're so brilliant and fantastic as a BB viewer then go to University, do a Masters in bio-medical subject and just expect to be laughed at when you think you've got something "conclusive" or "absolute"... if you haven't realised after completing the course that all this Nadia business was just hyped up nonsense from Endemol.

What else is funny? This is why you watch Big Brother. You watch it for incidents like this. As somebody else said on a thread, you don't watch Newsnight for this. Of course Newsnight has it's bias but there is an expression of balance, an expression of inconclusiveness so it makes you laugh when people on a low-brow laugh a minute (at the freaks) show think they have all the answers

In a few weeks time you will all forget this. Some of you will be watching Strictly Come Dancing, some of you will be watching X Factor, the rest of you when you realise you don't get any attention or smothering from this incident will run away and try and get attention for something else.

This is not a serious incident.

Of course because this takes the gloss away from the witch hunt nobody will think otherwise from this because a couple of the biggest attention seekers on Big Brother if not the world are running around screaming when nobody important give a s**t because they've got actual important things to think about!!

Hate this poster.

Every thread he makes or comments on he just pushes his over the top views on everyone and states thing's that he claims are facts but in actual fact they are completly ficticious.

"Transexuals are only seen as just a fetish in America"?

Pfft...If your gonna claim you knw this sorta stuff then provide sources.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Alluding to having a close connection to the show isn't convincing, at all! You do it alot! You have no more idea on whether Nadia failed or passed the psych test than any of us.

Brian wasn't the only hm to talk about the way Coolio behaved towards Nadia. Nick, Dullrika, Preston and Chantelle were also involved in the conversation. They explained in quite a bit of detail to Vanessa exactly what had been going on. Coolio constantly referred to Nadia as 'they' and 'it'. He also asked on a number of occasions for the others to put their hands up her skirt to see if she had a penis. He did all this despite Nadia going into great detail about what she'd been through, including all the surgery, on day 2 in a chat with Coolio in the bathroom. I guess the ignorant ******er forgot, right? Or maybe he's an offensive bigot.

Makosi has also backed up these claims in an interview after her eviction.

I do recall this moment pretty well and it didn't go anything like what you are talking about in fact you and only you in the whole of the world is the one who brings it across like this - well done on that one.

So... we still stand with what we know. Nadia behaved like an aggressive ape and we know that she is gender dysphoric and we know she is still on the meds - all her own words. Therefore...this is why Coolio left.

It's quite simple isn't it? Isn't it. You just deal with what you know...


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Now for your benefit I will side with you.

Yeah man. Yeah man. Innit do', like, dat Coolio man him like show naa' rispek to Nadia. Him like in dat face man innit like. Him like naa respectin Nadia like and like Nadia yeah man you is speak troofs man cuz we reads the Red Tops and like Celebs n dat cuz we blazin like.

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My pleasure.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Coolio knew what Nadia had been through, including all of the surgery after having a very calm, normal chat in the bathroom with her on the evening of day 2. No anger, no snapping.

Oh no... no...

this was just a conversation. Now you're just using any old piece of footage, twisting it for your benefit and bringing it across as though it was all Nadia like brilliant human being spawned from Angels.

So she's not aggressive? The world is against Nadia because she had her penis removed? or something like that?

Seriously... seriously... who are you trying to kid? Man some people take this sh** too seriously.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Hate this poster.

Every thread he makes or comments on he just pushes his over the top views on everyone and states thing's that he claims are facts but in actual fact they are completly ficticious.

"Transexuals are only seen as just a fetish in America"?

Pfft...If your gonna claim you knw this sorta stuff then provide sources.

Truth hurts doesn't it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Truth hurts doesn't it.

That response just proves how over the top you are.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

I do recall this moment pretty well and it didn't go anything like what you are talking about in fact you and only you in the whole of the world is the one who brings it across like this - well done on that one.
So... we still stand with what we know. Nadia behaved like an aggressive ape and we know that she is gender dysphoric and we know she is still on the meds - all her own words. Therefore...this is why Coolio left.

It's quite simple isn't it? Isn't it. You just deal with what you know...


.
.

Now for your benefit I will side with you.

Yeah man. Yeah man. Innit do', like, dat Coolio man him like show naa' rispek to Nadia. Him like in dat face man innit like. Him like naa respectin Nadia like and like Nadia yeah man you is speak troofs man cuz we reads the Red Tops and like Celebs n dat cuz we blazin like.

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My pleasure.

Then your recollection is scewed.

Tis all there for you to read on the live updates and the WHATM.

The rest of your post is irrelevant sh!te.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Oh no... no...

this was just a conversation. Now you're just using any old piece of footage, twisting it for your benefit and bringing it across as though it was all Nadia like brilliant human being spawned from Angels.

So she's not aggressive? The world is against Nadia because she had her penis removed? or something like that?

Seriously... seriously... who are you trying to kid? Man some people take this sh** too seriously.

Now what are you waffling about???

The conversation happened.

Where did i say she isn't aggressive?? All i did was reply to the poster who said Nadia would have gone OTT if Coolio had asked nicely about her gender identity and expression of it. I just pointed out that when Coolio did bring up the subject, in a normal convo, Nadia responded without snapping.

[Jack_]

Yawn, yawn ****ing yawn

If you think discrimination of any kind is acceptable, then you are quite clearly ignorant, vacuous and vile.

Three/four housemates have basically confirmed what happened - rendering this post complete and utter bullshine. I suggest you toddle on with your downright abhorrent and ludicrous opinions before you show yourself up even more as someone who supports discrimination and bullying. Absolutely laughable. Poor little troll.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

That response just proves how over the top you are.

As I said, probably just a poor little troll. Ignore it.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Then your recollection is scewed.

Tis all there for you to read on the live updates and the WHATM.

The rest of your post is irrelevant sh!te.

Hmm...

Most of the world agree with me after seeing it and only you have one point of view.

So logically speaking, I believe your view and your posts are irrelevant sh!te!

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Now what are you waffling about???

The conversation happened.

Where did i say she isn't aggressive?? All i did was reply to the poster who said Nadia would have gone OTT if Coolio had asked nicely about her gender identity and expression of it. I just pointed out that when Coolio did bring up the subject, in a normal convo, Nadia responded without snapping.

I was just speaking like you speak. Any problem with that?

You are not backtracking because your assumptions have been questioned after you went out on a bully boy assault that has failed.

You fell very quickly. Weak arguments.

I think it's cute that you're using an aggressive tone to stop me from posting. Makes me giggle.

Seriously. Get an objective view next time. You won't need to struggle to cope with a shallow and insubstantial opinion next time.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yawn, yawn ****ing yawn

If you think discrimination of any kind is acceptable, then you are quite clearly ignorant, vacuous and vile.

Three/four housemates have basically confirmed what happened - rendering this post complete and utter bullshine. I suggest you toddle on with your downright abhorrent and ludicrous opinions before you show yourself up even more as someone who supports discrimination and bullying. Absolutely laughable. Poor little troll.



As I said, probably just a poor little troll. Ignore it.

Aaaww... bless. The 2010 angle to address forum members you don't agree with, call them a troll.

Nobody... nobody has backed it up. We are talking about hearsay. It's a pity. A shame. In fact - it's just a difficulty to cope with facts because a little bit of a drama is all you need to spice up your life. Sad. Very Sad.

Does it hurt that your tantrums are built upon a bald headed attention seeker trying to make money for lodging friend in London who has lost all her money?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Hmm...

Most of the world agree with me after seeing it and only you have one point of view.

So logically speaking, I believe your view and your posts are irrelevant sh!te!

Ignorance is bliss eh.

Like i said, instead of burying your head in the sand you need only read the reports in the live updates or WHATM.

Preston, Dullrika, Chantelle and Brian all confirmed Coolio's behaviour towards Nadia. Then there's Makosi's interview.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Ignorance is bliss eh.

Like i said, instead of burying your head in the sand you need only read the reports in the live updates or WHATM.

Preston, Dullrika, Chantelle and Brian all confirmed Coolio's behaviour towards Nadia. Then there's Makosi's interview.

You made me laugh when you said WHATM and live updates. What a laugh. Struggling... That doesn't work. I watched it. Others watched it - that's why the angle is clear - Nadia is an aggressive animal.

I don't need to do that. I've seen accounts all over the internet.

You're just trying to quote things which the vast vast majority do not agree with and you need little bits and pieces to back it up.

You really must think people are stupid and I think in the most part, you're aching with rage that people don't believe a tantrum ***** like Shabby called Nadia isn't getting her cake and eating it.

That's what this is all about isn't it? Angry people are justified - when in fact they're not.

Burying my head in the sand? That's you boy... just you.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

I was just speaking like you speak. Any problem with that?

You are not backtracking because your assumptions have been questioned after you went out on a bully boy assault that has failed.

You fell very quickly. Weak arguments.

I think it's cute that you're using an aggressive tone to stop me from posting. Makes me giggle.

Seriously. Get an objective view next time. You won't need to struggle to cope with a shallow and insubstantial opinion next time.

I think you should try responding to the points that myself and others have made instead of going off on a rant about backtracking (didn't happen) and my using an aggressive tone (didn't happen)

Speaking of insubstantial opinion. It is your very own posts which are lacking reality or substance.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I think you should try responding to the points that myself and others have made instead of going off on a rant about backtracking (didn't happen) and my using an aggressive tone (didn't happen)

Speaking of insubstantial opinion. It is your very own posts which are lacking reality or substance.

Yourself and others? What are you doing? Copying and pasting from forum threads from the past 20 years?

It's just you. You and the Nadia mafia who are about as clued up as a piece of stinking dust.

You are using an aggressive tone because I don't want to follow through with your one man crusade to believe what you say. You're beginning to sound like Nadia and Shabby now - is that why you support them? Whoever shouts loudest is right? Is this your raison d'etre and why you support them in Big Brother?

Everything is becoming clearer and clearer.

Aaaww bless - your last paragraph. Turning it into a high school slappy hand fight now aren't you.

Nadia is an aggressive person. She did it all to herself. Is that difficult to understand? Do you not understand?

She makes her own mess. Is that difficult to comprehend? Does not compute for you does it.

She want a the money to pay for a the lodging in a the house she have in Come Dine With Me?

Don't you get it? You've been made a mug of by Marco Sabba and Nadia Almada?

Do you not understand?

LOL - Reality? You wouldn't know it if it slapped you in the face.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

You made me laugh when you said WHATM and live updates. What a laugh. Struggling... That doesn't work. I watched it. Others watched it - that's why the angle is clear - Nadia is an aggressive animal.

I don't need to do that. I've seen accounts all over the internet.

You're just trying to quote things which the vast vast majority do not agree with and you need little bits and pieces to back it up.

You really must think people are stupid and I think in the most part, you're aching with rage that people don't believe a tantrum ***** like Shabby called Nadia isn't getting her cake and eating it.

That's what this is all about isn't it? Angry people are justified - when in fact they're not.

Burying my head in the sand? That's you boy... just you.

This vast vast majority you speak of exists only in your head.

Not all people but you are doing a good job of 'acting stupid' right now as your post makes little sense. WTH has Shabby got to do with it?

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

This vast vast majority you speak of exists only in your head.

Not all people but you are doing a good job of 'acting stupid' right now as your post makes little sense. WTH has Shabby got to do with it?

Look at this forum. Look at Digital Spy. Look at Twitter. Look at facebook.

You're alone in this. All alone. All you have are a couple of random people on your side that I made a fool of on this forum.

Shabby is Nadia - Nadia is Shabby - that's why you are supporting both. You like gratuitously angry aggressive individuals.

It's obvious. That's reality. Just giving you a lesson in it.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MrWong

This vast vast majority you speak of exists only in your head.

Not all people but you are doing a good job of 'acting stupid' right now as your post makes little sense. WTH has Shabby got to do with it?

"oooh look at me, my name mr.wong. Me like angry people. Me like aggressive people. Mommy and Daddy no listen to me. Me like people who just throw the handle so me justify life at home. Me mr.wong. Me angry."