[lime]

Ok, So apparently if you don't believe in this pair been truly in love you are cynical,negative and maybe even a conspiracy theorist.

As much as some mods/FMs believe these two to be truly in love,know exactly what JJames financial situation is and have Xray vision to know what happened under the duvet why can't they debate that rather than insult those who don't believe.

[BBGermany]

how much have these two made so far in mag deals?
I see that 6 month contract only lasting 3 months or less

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by jaq7uk

anyone see hypocrite crabyy and josie. he is such a user. anyone agree???

No, I think they look lovely together.

[Shiner]

The thing about JJ1's "hypocrisy" is that if it wasn't for Josie he wouldn't be in the mags to this extent. He was voted out for being an arse and would have slumped back into obscurity like the others but for the fauxmance. It is purely down to the fact that Josie doesn't have a story on her own without JJ1. I'm sure if he felt strongly enough about his morals he could avoid the publicity but (and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here) he is probably just doing it for Josie's career.

What this proves though is that sadly for Josie there really is "No show without Punch".

[blackparade]

Yes he started by saying that he disagreed with people going into BB just to get mag deals but then launched at Rachel for getting them when she left. And he had the cheek to say she would do anything for money, when he has ponced about trying to rip off Beckham?? He is a ****in priiick and i hate his guts and the sooner he pisses off back to Oz the better!

[Julesuk]

Originally Posted by Princess

He was so NOT cold,I've seen enough hours of live feed to know that.

Spot on people who dont believe in what they have should watch some of the live feed footage - what annoys me a bit is that if anything John is more into Josie than she is him but everyone slates him off - there is no way he would fake this romance he is absolutely smitten with her.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

Spot on people who dont believe in what they have should watch some of the live feed footage - what annoys me a bit is that if anything John is more into Josie than she is him but everyone slates him off - there is no way he would fake this romance he is absolutely smitten with her.

Even if he did fall for the fat and ugliest girl and it makes a nice fairytale story to latch on to, he was a total dick to everyone else. Even Josie said that she didn't like his personality much.

You can't blame anyone for being skeptical of their relationship. He could hardly kiss her for weeks or show any real romantic interest. He even said in the diary room he didn't like her like that and he was prepared to run towards the fire exit because he didn't want to hurt her because he didn't fancy her. They acted more like brother and sister than lovers. They keep talking about they've finally had sex now and I don't believe it. If you have to keep talking about it you're not doing it.

[blackparade]

The thing is when you watch the live footage it's painfully obvious that he doesn't find her attractive by his facial expressions and his body language. Compare that to how he was with JJ2 and you can see who he is inlove with more.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Princess

He was so NOT cold,I've seen enough hours of live feed to know that.

I actually feel sorry for any girl who thinks that Crabby loves Josie in a romantic way,he IS so very cold,I have also watched LF,even his 'cuddles' are not spontaneous or meant in a loving way,I hope these girls find a true love,then they will see what most of us see with Crabby.He is not a 'man' in love,fact.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

Spot on people who dont believe in what they have should watch some of the live feed footage - what annoys me a bit is that if anything John is more into Josie than she is him but everyone slates him off - there is no way he would fake this romance he is absolutely smitten with her.

It was watching the live footage that made me see his true colours,he is a vile person and out for himself,most people have woke up to this.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by kazanne

It was watching the live footage that made me see his true colours,he is a vile person and out for himself,most people have woke up to this.

Exactly!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Princess

They kissed loads under the duvet. If they snogged in front of everyone you'd be saying that was flaunting it and that wouldn't be real,they can't win. And it's not naivity,I just don't think every single BB relationship ever is fake just because it's on Big Brother. I like to believe in relationships that in my eyes seem 100% genuine.

Were you under there with them?he didn't kiss her properly,do you know what a proper kiss is like?not having a go ,just wondering as you seem quite young.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Were you under there with them?he didn't kiss her properly,do you know what a proper kiss is like?not having a go ,just wondering as you seem quite young.

Don't think she is as young as she sounds! Sad really!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by angus58

Hypocritical backtracker is all he is. Who the hell is HE to judge anyone, and if he didn't like it, he should have kept his views to himself - why castigate people like Rachael for it, how dare he? He only fools those who want to be fooled. Everyone else knew he was a hypocrite and he's proved that in bucketloads. - look at the lengths he has gone to in order to get deals, even keeping the crapmance going. I give it another few weeks till the mag deals dry up and he'll be off.

As for not needing the money, in his original VT he makes it clear he is there for the FAME not the money - how much clearer can he be? Lucky him, not NEEDING the money, but he sure as hell loves the unwarranted attention he is getting, having bored us all rigid all summer with his horizontal sidekick.

Regarding his moronic twitter fans, they actually threaten violence to anyone who dares to criticise the scrawny turd and his turdette, Clearly they've taken a leaf out of the aggressive little twat's book and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them. Some of the threats border on the psychotic. Look how they did their idol's bidding and stooped to fraud to eliminate any opposition whilst he was in the house. And still they make excuses for his hypocritical behaviour - it beggars belief

"scrawny turd and his turdette"spot on and no matter how many times we flush,they still hang on in there

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kazanne

It was watching the live footage that made me see his true colours,he is a vile person and out for himself,most people have woke up to this.

But a great housemate. Please learn the difference.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But a great housemate. Please learn the difference.

That's YOUR opinion,(and very patronising it is too) but don't impose it on others. He and Dozy were dreadful HMs, and completely ruined the show for me and many others. The hours of tedious duvet fumbling, fake leavings, cringeworthy fake shows of affection, and his monumental arrogance in supposing any of the HMs gave a flying ***** for his misguided and ill-informed opinions which he had the audacity to try and impose on them, did not make for interesting viewing. YOU found him entertaining - well good for you. A lot of us did NOT.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by angus58

That's YOUR opinion,(and very patronising it is too) but don't impose it on others. He and Dozy were dreadful HMs, and completely ruined the show for me and many others. The hours of tedious duvet fumbling, fake leavings, cringeworthy fake shows of affection, and his monumental arrogance in supposing any of the HMs gave a flying ***** for his misguided and ill-informed opinions which he had the audacity to try and impose on them, did not make for interesting viewing. YOU found him entertaining - well good for you. A lot of us did NOT.

Sorry, but he gave you lot something to talk about, didn't he? He gave us all something to talk about. Are you seriously trying to suggest the likes of Steve, Hira, Rachel Rice etc offered more to the show than he did? This show thrives off discussion and debate - something I have said numerous times before. Without these types of housemates we would have no show whatsoever. It is the bores/small characters that should always be evicted first.

It is not my opinion - it is fact. I have hated a few housemates over the years, but if they were crucial to the show - I would admit it.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by angus58

That's YOUR opinion,(and very patronising it is too) but don't impose it on others. He and Dozy were dreadful HMs, and completely ruined the show for me and many others. The hours of tedious duvet fumbling, fake leavings, cringeworthy fake shows of affection, and his monumental arrogance in supposing any of the HMs gave a flying ***** for his misguided and ill-informed opinions which he had the audacity to try and impose on them, did not make for interesting viewing. YOU found him entertaining - well good for you. A lot of us did NOT.

Here here.
Let's not forget Josie having a monumental falling out with Sam because he pointed out that she and JJ would be selling their story once they got out.
I wonder if Josie will publish a public apology for that one?

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Sorry, but he gave you lot something to talk about, didn't he? He gave us all something to talk about. Are you seriously trying to suggest the likes of Steve, Hira, Rachel Rice etc offered more to the show than he did? This show thrives off discussion and debate - something I have said numerous times before. Without these types of housemates we would have no show whatsoever. It is the bores/small characters that should always be evicted first.

It is not my opinion - it is fact. I have hated a few housemates over the years, but if they were crucial to the show - I would admit it.

He was an arse and would have been voted out sooner had it not been for the fauxmance... and the forum would still be here and the discussions would have continued. You make it sound like without him the show would be nothing.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Shiner

He was an arse

Hence why he was a good housemate...

Originally Posted by Shiner

and the forum would still be here and the discussions would have continued. You make it sound like without him the show would be nothing.

Of course they would have continued. But there would've been less to talk about - that is a fact. And the less there is, the worse it is. Surely you can see that? Remember the final few days of BB11 when all the big characters had left, leaving us with one of the dullest final line-ups ever? There were no discussions whatsoever, excluding the highlights thread. And why? Because nothing was happening. If that isn't conclusive proof that big characters, like them or loathe them are needed - then I don't know what is.

Let's be honest here, the BB11's cast is a contender for one of the worst casts of all time. John saved a good few weeks at the start of the series into the middle of the series after all the early 'big characters' [Rachael, Govan, even Sunshine] had been evicted by the always foolish and clueless voting public. None of the others were really delivering. And even after it livened up a bit he still kept it interesting when things started to go downhill. Fauxmance or no fauxmance [to be quite honest that whole thing never interested me or bothered me], he was a good housemate.

But hey, if you're the type that would rather watch Rachel Rice, then fine, as long as you realise you've contributed to BB's axe...

[James]

Posts 62 and 63 are quite patronising if you ask me.

People believe what they want to believe, depending on their predujices and which housemates they liked/disliked. I can't really be bothered debating this topic. :P

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Hence why he was a good housemate...



Of course they would have continued. But there would've been less to talk about - that is a fact. And the less there is, the worse it is. Surely you can see that? Remember the final few days of BB11 when all the big characters had left, leaving us with one of the dullest final line-ups ever? There were no discussions whatsoever, excluding the highlights thread. And why? Because nothing was happening. If that isn't conclusive proof that big characters, like them or loathe them are needed - then I don't know what is.

Let's be honest here, the BB11's cast is a contender for one of the worst casts of all time. John saved a good few weeks at the start of the series into the middle of the series after all the early 'big characters' [Rachael, Govan, even Sunshine] had been evicted by the always foolish and clueless voting public. None of the others were really delivering. And even after it livened up a bit he still kept it interesting when things started to go downhill. Fauxmance or no fauxmance [to be quite honest that whole thing never interested me or bothered me], he was a good housemate.

But hey, if you're the type that would rather watch Rachel Rice, then fine, as long as you realise you've contributed to BB's axe...

Woah. That is just all kinds of wrong.
An arse of a guy does not make a good HM - it's exactly views such as that which have killed the show. You can't state something that didn't happen and is just your ill conceived conjecture as "fact". I don't like Rachel Rice. Fail. Fail. Fail.

Yes the characters weren't great but they had potential yet we never had the opportunity to explore them fully because BB was so fixated on the JJJ show.

If JJ had gone early, there would have been no fauxmance, the producers wouldn't have promoted Josie for the win and who knows it might have actually been a worthwhile show.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But a great housemate. Please learn the difference.

Who the hell are you to tell people to 'learn' it's about time YOU learned to be civil and speak to people properly,he was NOT a great housemate imo,he was a parasite and spoilt it for a lot of people,he is vile,a user and a hypocrital pillock,is that good enough for you?it's about time you learnt SOME of us have different opinions to you,Thank God.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by James

Posts 62 and 63 are quite patronising if you ask me.

People believe what they want to believe, depending on their predujices and which housemates they liked/disliked. I can't really be bothered debating this topic. :P

So is no,65,but that's ok is it,as he is a crabby fan!!!He is mostly ALWAYS trying to patronise people,take a look and you will see what I mean,I always thought you were one of the fairer mods.Mods really need to let people give their opinions whether it's about a housemate they like or not,otherwise this forum will never be fair.

[SoBig]

If I remember correctly, John James always used to go at people for wanting to be in magazines etc., but as soon as he was evicted he's been in every magazine imaginable.