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Originally Posted by ElProximo
Not anywhere close to 10% of the population chooses homosexuality. The very best research we can find may have less than 1% who can be said to actively, exclusively and be 'ongoing' in this kind of thing.
But it was YOU who may suppose they were born with a 'retardation' of either the body or the mind.
No, these do not change anything and the hand and hair still have the same point and purpose as any other.
This is baseless and we have no reason to believe 'people have been gay' since the beginning of time.
We do know that homosexuality appears throughout the recorded history of human civilization including gangs who would go about raping and murdering men.
For almost all of human history, crossing cultures and continents where we can find it practices (and mostly it is considered perverse),
but,
For the most part it is considered something you can 'do'.
Not a 'race'.
Not another 'gender'.
Not something where a type of person called 'a gay' is born.
It is a sexual interest. It could be a 'phase'. It could depend on what they were into at the time.
A Roman might be into slave girls and then at another time take a teen boy as a 'student' and sodomize him whenever,
but,
then he may be married and devoted to a wife or later they both like heterosexual orgies.
This idea you have about a kind of '3rd gender' a type of human that is born called 'A gay' who (you believe) is meant to desire same genders 'from birth' is bizarre.
It is an aberrant belief compared to human history. It is a strange new idea you are testing in just a recent generation.
No. Humans are all the same colour (it is a yellowish brown though a red tint runs through us too) and the difference is having more or less which is higher or lower in the skin,
but,
if you wanted a 'comparison' this could be like having a longer or shorter penis or bigger or smaller breasts - it doesn't change anything for the penis or breast or what it can do.
So you would agree they have a medical problem and surgery is needed to correct it.
It seems that transsexuals would agree with this idea where they were born with the wrong parts.
nonsense. it presumes a type of people called 'the gay people' and doesn't square with the best research where we see far more 'in and out' and 'back and forth' and nowhere near these strict definitions.
But even that doesn't tell us anything for your claims. Not long ago I watched a documentary (might have been C4) about 'shoe-sexuals' but the idea was exploring a surprisingly popular fetish of men who are sexually infatuated with shoes.
One was even arrested making love to Mariah Carey (the pop star) to her shoes!
Shoesexuals become so infatuated that they get to a point they cannot even become sexually aroused unless there is shoes involved. They could make love to their wife - only if she wears shoes and he can ___ the shoes,
but,
they can exclusively become aroused by shoes alone at all times.
Would you now claim they are simply a type of human.. like a 'gender' who are simply born this way?
The breast work but they are not used. We call this 'useless'. You believe that. I don't.
So you think the sperm production in this kind of 'gay human' is meant for being taken by heterosexuals?
Are they our 'cows' then?
The medieval period was a great time of medical advances, scientific advancement and progressive understanding of the natural world around us,
but,
they might have shared some views with you (and I disagree) but one of these might be that people are born with some kind of spirit that could dictate their behavior.
You believe this. You believe some babies are born as 'gay humans' and although there is no detected physical or even physiological difference - you just 'believe' some kind of 'gay spirit' will turn them into a different kind of human.
I have more progressive ideas. Youre stuck in 1982 leftist agenda myths.
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It's statistical fact in the Western World that 1 in 10 people would identify as LGBT. At no point did I ever state being gay was a retardation that was your prejudice being inclined to believe I did so would contradict my argument and therefore the purpose of the thread.
a Gay man's penis and a Straight man's penis have the same purpose to reproduce, a gay man doesn't feel the need to use this function as he is attracted to the same sex, it doesn't mean it's a retardation, the appendix has no use yet we still have them, sperm has little use to a gay man but he still produces it, therefore that argument cannot be contained.
The Third Gender as you refer to is illogical, there are two genders, male and female, a gender is determined by anatomy not by sexual attraction, the fact you claim to say homosexuality is a phase is ridiculous why would people choose to go through emotional torment?
People have been gay since Biblical times and the ancient Greeks before that, it's well known and documented... Wikipedia it bitch.