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No it would be so awkward for the poor kid
Yeah but so are a lot of other things. I think it's unfair that a pair of absolutely crap parents could have kids just because they can because they're a man and woman. And a couple who could be amazing parents simply can't because of biology and that some people are hung up about the kid not getting the best upbringing. Which is utter ****.

Every kid has awkward things,having a weird name,wearing the wrong clothes or whatever. Having parents who love you who happen to be the same sex wouldn't be any difference.
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I don't think they should be the first choice.

I think a child should grow up with both a father and a mother figure.

If you can't find a heterosexual couple for the child, then the gay couples come in.

EDIT: If anyone finds what I said, to be offensive. I couldn't careless. Thats what I truly believe. I've noticed that people get attacked for their opinions on here at an extremely high rate.
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I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple
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I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple
but you would be able to cope as that would be the norm for you. The only reason you think you would collapse without a female role model in your life is because you've had one.
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I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple
but you would be able to cope as that would be the norm for you. The only reason you think you would collapse without a female role model in your life is because you've had one.
Good point, didn't really think of that. Hmm. I suppose your right. They should do a documentary on it, having a teenager who is used to being with hetrosexual parents, move in with a gay couple for a couple of months and test your idea.
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I saw two sons of these two lesbians on some talk show, tho they weren't adopted, the mothers got sperm donors. The sons said they were perfectly happy and never much need for a male figure in my life and that their lives were just as stable if not more than some of their peer with a father and a mother.
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I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple
but there is other influencal figures a child can have not just parents while my situation isnt completely to this topic my daughter doesnt see her dad at all but she has a stong influence from my dad my grandad and my step bro they are a huge part of her life so she isnt without the male figure in her life
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I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple
but you would be able to cope as that would be the norm for you. The only reason you think you would collapse without a female role model in your life is because you've had one.
Not true.

I grew up without a father and it was hell for me.

There is just somethings my grandmother and mother couldn't help me with.

So your statement pretty much holds no truth to it.

I also had friends that grew up with the same problems, I had. Not having a father or mother figure around and they grew up with the same pain and suffering that I did.

Not having both a male and female figure to look up to is tough, beyond belief man.

Just tough.
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I like seeing this debate. I wonder how some of the newer members feel about this?
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Should Black people be allowed to adopt?

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I think the people who disagree, do so because of the fact that the child will be lacking in either a father or a mother figure in the family so the examples you've given are not really comparable.
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I think the people who disagree, do so because of the fact that the child will be lacking in either a father or a mother figure in the family so the examples you've given are not really comparable.
well legally that makes no sense, because plenty of str8 couples adopt kids even though both parents arn't in the home at all times.

Why are celebrities allowed to adopt kids then? considering they let their kids be raised by nannys.


And what does that mean a "mother" figure, or a "father" figure.

Would you rather have no mom and 2 gay dad's, or would you rather have 1 mom and 1 abusive alcoholic pedophile father that touched you in your sleep???

The vast majority of pedophilia crimes in britain is commited by heterosexual biological fathers against their own kids.
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If you actually look at the research, the most dangerous thing for a child to be around is a HETEROSEXUAL MALE.
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well legally that makes no sense, because plenty of str8 couples adopt kids even though both parents arn't in the home at all times.

Why are celebrities allowed to adopt kids then? considering they let their kids by nannys.


And what does that mean a "mother" figure, or a "father" figure.

Would you rather have no mom and 2 gay dad's, or would you rather have 1 mom and 1 abusive alcoholic pedophile father that touched you in your sleep???

The vast majority of pedophilia crimes in britain is commited by heterosexual biological fathers against their own kids.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all and you can add to your list the number of single parents out there too but when they are adopting a child it is controllable, where as no one can control people having their own biological kids (unfortunate in some cases!!)

having said that I do think it is good for a child to have both a good male and female figure in their lives, I mean I look at my own son for example and see the relationship he has with his father which I couldn't give him but I give him something else that has father doesn't.

to answer your question about the celebs, I think that all boils down to money unfortunately.
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Most probably yes!

People get bullied regardless. Most people get bullied for being gay as it is.

As long as they're good parents.

It is so awkward to answer though.
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Of course they should, the most important thing for a child to have is love, and gay couples are as free and able to give that as heterosexual couples, more so in some cases.

Shouldn't even be an argument in my opinion.
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You guys do realize the whole "it will be more difficult for them" was the same excuse given when society was asking the question should INTER_RACIAL marriage be allowed.

The same points you are making, about a sense of identity, and the hardships they will face, were used by RACISTS to argue against inter-racial marriage.

they "won't have any role-models" and they will "be confused" these are the same arguments made by racists against inter-racial marriage.
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It's ridiculous to take away the chance of a child having a stable home and parental figures just because of the parent's sexuality. If someone has the resources, desire and skills to be a parent then there's no excuse to deny them. A stable home and permanent parental figures are better then a cycle of foster parents and homes.
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The same points you are making, about a sense of identity, and the hardships they will face, were used by RACISTS to argue against inter-racial marriage.
well, I'll be honest here if I had to pick a home for a child and choose between a decent, loving straight couple and an equally decent, loving gay couple then I would choose the straight couple, simply because I believe it is more ideal to have both a father and a mother figure in a childs life. However with the amount of children in the world, especially outside of Europe, that need good homes I don't believe it would ever come down to a straight choice like this.
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Totally yes there are gay couples who would make fantastic parents and should be given that opportunity - god look at some of the sh**e parents on Jeremy Kyle - much better to have great gay parents. Choose schools carefully if you can with strong bullying policies and where you know they will educate the children on this from primary school age, children are so accepting (its their parents that arn't) - you can't stop all bullying but you never can and your just as likely to get bullied with straight parents.
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It's ridiculous to take away the chance of a child having a stable home and parental figures just because of the parent's sexuality. If someone has the resources, desire and skills to be a parent then there's no excuse to deny them. A stable home and permanent parental figures are better then a cycle of foster parents and homes.
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I also agree with this. May as well have both a mother and father figure if it's a choice between a straight and gay couple who are equally good parents, but when it comes to (the ratios of) sexuality and good parenting, the good parenting should always take priority.
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I am sure that if a child had a choice they would rather be brought up by a loving gay couple, than in a children's home or a series of foster homes. All kids just want to belong to someone and be part of a family. If a gay couple can offer a child a stable and loving home, what on earth is the problem?
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I also agree with this. May as well have both a mother and father figure if it's a choice between a straight and gay couple who are equally good parents, but when it comes to (the ratios of) sexuality and good parenting, the good parenting should always take priority.
absolutely and there are plenty of children out there needing this, I absolutely disagree that a child is better off in a foster home or an orphanage than to be placed with a loving and stable gay couple.
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Absoloutly, just because your born liking the same sex doesn't mean your not capable as a parent nor should they miss out on the opportunity, besides there's plenty of **** parents out there who are of both sexes so.
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