[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by angus58

I'm sure they'll be queuing around the block to get his autograph

This size or smaller???

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by lauraC

well unsurprisingly I couldn't disagree more.
Mario liked Ben, he saw him as a polite soft spoken person who didn't argue, he didn't see the bitchy nasty side of Ben until after he had left the house, he could only see the full extent of his bitchiness after he had left the show so that's why before he left he still thought kindly of Ben, only after did he realise what a mistake he had make in assuming Ben was a kind person.
Everyone of you would be hurt if you discovered someone you thought of as a friend was slagging you off behind your back, Mario's reaction to Ben after finding out about him was to distance himself from Ben refuse to comment about him and no longer wish to be his friend, all understandable reactions.

I have to say that is pure invention, BEN said nothing about Mario that was not true,Ben only ever said anything from what he had seen, what he felt,heard or had been told, all with a firm base to what he was saying.

As for Mario 'no longer wanting to be a friend of BEN, in my view that is also wrong for the following reason, Mario was soundly rejected by Ben as to his sexual innuendo's and advances, Ben had got tired of them,he told Mario in frank terms he would be a friend but never anything more.

That, is why Mario turned on Ben, furthermore I would dare bet anything on it that were BEN now to meet up with Mario at all and give the slightest hint that he could be interested in Mario sexually then Mario would jump like crazy and be all apologetic,praising Ben from the rooftops (like when he got Ben back in the house for a few hours,wanting to be handcuffed to him).

He's a hypocrite and his hypocrisy stems from what people will 'not' give him in the physical sense, he is simply sick and far too possessive.

[babycakes]

Originally Posted by lauraC

Mario is doing different things, ben wants to work in the media and mario in design

The world holds it's breath as they await the next generation bubble wrap butterfly jacket, whilst - rightly or wrongly - RTV shows appear to be as popular as ever and Ben has a regular guest slot on a BBC radio show.

[Vodka Drinka]

Originally Posted by babycakes

The world holds it's breath as they await the next generation bubble wrap butterfly jacket, whilst - rightly or wrongly - RTV shows appear to be as popular as ever and Ben has a regular guest slot on a BBC radio show.

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by babycakes

The world holds it's breath as they await the next generation bubble wrap butterfly jacket, whilst - rightly or wrongly - RTV shows appear to be as popular as ever and Ben has a regular guest slot on a BBC radio show.

being a guest on a radio show is hardly a career is it? I bet he doesn't even get paid for it

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have to say that is pure invention, BEN said nothing about Mario that was not true,Ben only ever said anything from what he had seen, what he felt,heard or had been told, all with a firm base to what he was saying.

As for Mario 'no longer wanting to be a friend of BEN, in my view that is also wrong for the following reason, Mario was soundly rejected by Ben as to his sexual innuendo's and advances, Ben had got tired of them,he told Mario in frank terms he would be a friend but never anything more.

That, is why Mario turned on Ben, furthermore I would dare bet anything on it that were BEN now to meet up with Mario at all and give the slightest hint that he could be interested in Mario sexually then Mario would jump like crazy and be all apologetic,praising Ben from the rooftops (like when he got Ben back in the house for a few hours,wanting to be handcuffed to him).

He's a hypocrite and his hypocrisy stems from what people will 'not' give him in the physical sense, he is simply sick and far too possessive.

disagree with everything you said ben was not honest he was just unkind. Ben flirted with mario, he admitted flirting with mario, John James told ben he was giving mario mixed messages and he chose to ignore the advice he gave him and continue to flirt with mario.
I actually think ben did fancy mario he was just afraid of being so Out there on national t.v.

[babycakes]

Originally Posted by lauraC

being a guest on a radio show is hardly a career is it? I bet he doesn't even get paid for it

I doubt that an appearance fee, or lack of, is what would make Mario seeth with jealousy. The exposure however......that's something Mario would give his eye teeth for. IMVHO of course.

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by babycakes

I doubt that an appearance fee, or lack of, is what would make Mario seeth with jealousy. The exposure however......that's something Mario would give his eye teeth for. IMVHO of course.

I doubt he could give two craps

[Vodka Drinka]

Originally Posted by lauraC

being a guest on a radio show is hardly a career is it? I bet he doesn't even get paid for it

I don't think he wants to get paid for it, he does it because he enjoys it and likes the exposure. Maybe in the hope he will get a radio job out of it.

[Vodka Drinka]

Originally Posted by lauraC

disagree with everything you said ben was not honest he was just unkind. Ben flirted with mario, he admitted flirting with mario, John James told ben he was giving mario mixed messages and he chose to ignore the advice he gave him and continue to flirt with mario.
I actually think ben did fancy mario he was just afraid of being so Out there on national t.v.

So if he was, as you say, so afraid of being "out" on national TV then why did he flirt with another man? Your contradicting yourself now

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by Vodka Drinka

I don't think he wants to get paid for it, he does it because he enjoys it and likes the exposure. Maybe in the hope he will get a radio job out of it.

so why would anyone be jealous of him for being a guest on a late show radio show that he doesn't even get paid for? I don't know how that could be considered a career, ben was doing bits and bobs in the media before he even went on big brother

[Vodka Drinka]

Originally Posted by lauraC

so why would anyone be jealous of him for being a guest on a late show radio show that he doesn't even get paid for? I don't know how that could be considered a career, ben was doing bits and bobs in the media before he even went on big brother

Does Mario get paid for his crappy clothing designs?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by babycakes

I doubt that an appearance fee, or lack of, is what would make Mario seeth with jealousy. The exposure however......that's something Mario would give his eye teeth for. IMVHO of course.

And we all know how much Mario loves exposure - even when it involves his own genitals.

If anything, if Ben guested on shows without payment, I'd hold him in even more respect, but I most certainly would imagine he is (quite rightfully) paid - and possibly, quite handsomely too.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by babycakes

The world holds it's breath as they await the next generation bubble wrap butterfly jacket, whilst - rightly or wrongly - RTV shows appear to be as popular as ever and Ben has a regular guest slot on a BBC radio show.

Let's be perfectly honest here. It did look like something that toddlers in a kindergarden would knock up, that parents would be obliged to say how beautiful it was.......

What gives with all the 'skulls' - on tshirts, jeans etc. Hardly a new design concept really!!

[pices]

Originally Posted by lauraC

so why would anyone be jealous of him for being a guest on a late show radio show that he doesn't even get paid for? I don't know how that could be considered a career, ben was doing bits and bobs in the media before he even went on big brother

Mario is jealous full stop, in the house he was eaten up with it.
He could not bear it when Ben was chosen to be highlighted, he thought everything should be about him.He went into dark moods whenever the other housemates were being singled out for attention.He did'nt like it when Ben was friends with everyone, he wanted and needed Ben to be isolated so he could have control.
Thats why he befrended everyone who was feeling down ( a shield he called it) Mario needs to be needed and wanted exclusively, He could not bear Corin until he started running out of friends and because she and Ben were close, he took Andrew under his wing as soon as Ben left and it was at this time that I really began to see what a scumbag pervy little scrote he was.
Hs treatment of Andrew was disgraceful, Andrew is just a young lad and I feared for him a lot being letched on like that.yes we know Mario covered it up with saying it was only friendship and Andrew was too young, all the same his behaviour was appalling.

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by Vodka Drinka

Does Mario get paid for his crappy clothing designs?

I don't know why is ben jealous?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vodka Drinka

So if he was, as you say, so afraid of being "out" on national TV then why did he flirt with another man? Your contradicting yourself now

Good point!

Beats me why Ben's sexuality is of so much importance to some. I have no iota of understanding what difference it makes.

I personally don't give a hoot what people prefer, men, women, watermelons!!.

As long as they aren't 'footering about with furry animals', it's all cool with me. !!

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by pices

Mario is jealous full stop, in the house he was eaten up with it.
He could not bear it when Ben was chosen to be highlighted, he thought everything should be about him.He went into dark moods whenever the other housemates were being singled out for attention.He did'nt like it when Ben was friends with everyone, he wanted and needed Ben to be isolated so he could have control.
Thats why he befrended everyone who was feeling down ( a shield he called it) Mario needs to be needed and wanted exclusively, He could not bear Corin until he started running out of friends and because she and Ben were close, he took Andrew under his wing as soon as Ben left and it was at this time that I really began to see what a scumbag pervy little scrote he was.
Hs treatment of Andrew was disgraceful, Andrew is just a young lad and I feared for him a lot being letched on like that.yes we know Mario covered it up with saying it was only friendship and Andrew was too young, all the same his behaviour was appalling.

He befriended people who are feeling down because he's a nice person, infact he befriended everyone in the house

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by Vodka Drinka

So if he was, as you say, so afraid of being "out" on national TV then why did he flirt with another man? Your contradicting yourself now

he flirted but he didn't snog any of them did he? Bet he wanted to though, especially dave or john james

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Good point!

Beats me why Ben's sexuality is of so much importance to some. I have no iota of understanding what difference it makes.

I personally don't give a hoot what people prefer, men, women, watermelons!!.

As long as they aren't 'footering about with furry animals', it's all cool with me. !!

It was in response to the "sexual harassment" claims, it's not sexual harassment when 60% of the time the advances are welcomed and reciprocated

[pices]

Originally Posted by lauraC

He befriended people who are feeling down because he's a nice person, infact he befriended everyone in the house

He is not a nice person at all, he is a loathsome creature. And I notice you still have not answered my last post to you, do you as a Mario fan accept that Mario holds any blame at all for is behaviour

[Vodka Drinka]

Originally Posted by lauraC

I don't know why is ben jealous?

Hardly. I can't imagine he'd be seen dead in any of Mario's designs

Originally Posted by lauraC

he flirted but he didn't snog any of them did he? Bet he wanted to though, especially dave or john james

Nobody snogged anyone in there. Even John James and Josie didn't snog properly, so what a silly thing to say. Trust me, it doesn't support your paper thin and ridiculous argument that Ben is a closet gay at all. And if Ben wanted to snog anyone it would have been Rachael White. Certainly not Mario.

[lauraC]

Originally Posted by pices

He is not a nice person at all, he is a loathsome creature. And I notice you still have not answered my last post to you, do you as a Mario fan accept that Mario holds any blame at all for is behaviour

Which behaviour? be specific

[Vodka Drinka]

Originally Posted by lauraC

Which behaviour? be specific

Joking about touching the other male housemates genitals? I seem to remember Mario doing that a lot. Saying that he wished Ben "liked anal". And generally making other inappropriate sexual comments,

[babycakes]

Marios jealousy showed itself on BB on many occasions, but none more "in yer face" than when he had the most childish strop about Bens involvement in the Don't stop believing song. It was worthy of a 4 year old. I kept expecting SuperNanny to arrive at any moment.