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arista · 10-11-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

They can't have all that swearing (fingers being stuck up) before 9..

On News Ch's
they can.

A good Debate on this action
will be on Ch4 News at 7PM
tonight

BOOSH · 10-11-2010, 04:46 PM

Maybe they're just cold. I wear my hood and scarf in the winter

MTVN · 10-11-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Many are students and by covering there face
they do not let there Family to shame.

I find it surprising that these people who are supposedly so passionate about the chance to go to Uni have the time to take a day off from their studies and risk getting themselves arrested (I'm just talking about those partaking in violence btw)

Wouldnt surprise me if there's a lot of anarchists, or something like that, there causing some of the violence

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Originally Posted by ange7

yep well that's what a right wing system looks like. "user pays". You use it you should pay for it they argue. People agree with it because they have selfish "it's all about me" attitude and don't want to pay for what benefits society as a whole. These uni students won't get much sympathy from the wider community because they envy the fact that uni students managed to do what they never could... worked hard for a decent education. Asking them to pay for it is like rubbing salt in the wound. Truth is everyone benefits.... including and especially those from lower socio-economic background with kids who want to make a go of life instead of doing a crumby factory job and then watch TV all night.

A right wing system that was created by Labour?

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

I find it surprising that these people who are supposedly so passionate about the chance to go to Uni have the time to take a day off from their studies and risk getting themselves arrested (I'm just talking about those partaking in violence btw)

Wouldnt surprise me if there's a lot of anarchists, or something like that, there causing some of the violence

A right wing system that was created by Labour?

New labour was labour?

MTVN · 10-11-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7

New labour was labour?

Yes..

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes..

ummmm no.
Thank you come again.

Barbie · 10-11-2010, 04:59 PM

Its getting cold, they will all get bored soon if they havent already

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

Its getting cold, they will all get bored soon if they havent already

because cold = bored?
what kind of a world is it?...and when is it fantastic?

MTVN · 10-11-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7

ummmm no.
Thank you come again.

And you think New Labour are right wing do you?

arista · 10-11-2010, 05:05 PM

ITV London Local News
confirmed around 30 Students arrested and being held
inside the Lobby
and will soon be charged.

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

And you think New Labour are right wing do you?

I think a user pays eduction system is. Kind of the whole point of the thread but there you go. Or are you arguing that every policy labour puts forward is automatically left wing? Sounds like you are. You know the sound on game shows when a contestant gets it wrong....think of that sound.

BOOSH · 10-11-2010, 05:09 PM

Hmmmm.. yeah they smashed windows and stuff but the way the news are saying it is as if they went around shooting people.

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 05:11 PM

plastic

arista · 10-11-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOSH

Hmmmm.. yeah they smashed windows and stuff but the way the news are saying it is as if they went around shooting people.

Thugs attacking all those working there
is not what this Demo was about.

The Mayor of London just said
the Protest before this was good
and those Thigs will now face the full face of the Law.

MTVN · 10-11-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7

I think a user pays eduction system is. Kind of the whole point of the thread but there you go. Or are you arguing that every policy labour puts forward is automatically left wing? Sounds like you are. You know the sound on game shows when a contestant gets it wrong....think of that sound.

Nah I just think you should end your little obsession with the political spectrum, and your apparent need to bring it into the discussion. We are not having a pointless and petty discussion over which side of the spectrum we should categorise tuition fees.

Try reading the title again, it's about the protest, it's kind of the whole point of the thread but there you go..

Kazanne · 10-11-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Live on all media.

I was watching on SkyNewsHD
and a Thug - Criminal -Student Lad smashed the thick window
in Millbank and then to my Horror
a Female Student rammed a Stick in it.

They don't deserve any help if that is the way they act,what a shame they have tarred the protest which started off peacefully.idiots.

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Nah I just think you should end your little obsession with the political spectrum, and your apparent need to bring it into the discussion. We are not having a pointless and petty discussion over which side of the spectrum we should categorise tuition fees.

Try reading the title again, it's about the protest, it's kind of the whole point of the thread but there you go..

lol... so it's not about politics?
your saying
"please stop talking politics!!" is that right? wow!
So it's about "the preotesters".
What do you want to talk about... their dress sense? Everything that revolves around government policy is politics....including this.
"We are not having a pointless and petty discussion over which side of the spectrum we should categorise tuition fees."
this was your point not mine. It's generally agreed that a user pays system is a right wing model. Your the only one on the planet arguing it ain't.

Barbie · 10-11-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7

because cold = bored?
what kind of a world is it?...and when is it fantastic?

i meant a mixture of the 2 not cold=bored lol!

MTVN · 10-11-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7

lol... so it's not about politics?
your saying
"please stop talking politics!!" is that right? wow!
So it's about "the preotesters".
What do you want to talk about... their dress sense? Everything that revolves around government policy is politics....including this.
"We are not having a pointless and petty discussion over which side of the spectrum we should categorise tuition fees."
this was your point not mine. It's generally agreed that a user pays system is a right wing model. Your the only one on the planet arguing it ain't.

I'm talking about your insistence to bring a political spectrum into everything. A spectrum which, in reality, means very little and it is pretty pointless categorising every single thing into "right" or "left".

I want to talk about what's happening at the protest, and the effect the violence will have on their cause, whether the current fees system is "right-wing" or not is irrelevant.

And yes, that is what I said but it is your point, it was you who decided to bring the political spectrum into a discussion on a protest which turned violent. Obviously politics is a part of what happened today but you were just trying to label the system in what you consider to be a derogatory manner which is pointless

Judas · 10-11-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

What a bunch of wasters

LOL. Who is this view aimed at? MOST of the people on that march had drive and enthuasism - well done for getting your 10 hour a day job (that is meant honestly) but I fail to see how you can call people wasters for going on to further education.

Beastie · 10-11-2010, 05:39 PM

I do think it's a lot of money paying 9 grand a year to do a degree course. Therefore it will cost you 27 grand when you have finished the course. (This is on average)

I don't blame the protesters. However suppose there are plenty of people at uni who should not be there. However it is so hard to get a job. I would have gone to university if I couldn't find a job which I was really lucky to get.

It is a lose lose situation!

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm talking about your insistence to bring a political spectrum into everything. A spectrum which, in reality, means very little and it is pretty pointless categorising every single thing into "right" or "left".

I want to talk about what's happening at the protest, and the effect the violence will have on their cause, whether the current fees system is "right-wing" or not is irrelevant.

And yes, that is what I said but it is your point, it was you who decided to bring the political spectrum into a discussion on a protest which turned violent. Obviously politics is a part of what happened today but you were just trying to label the system in what you consider to be a derogatory manner which is pointless

on reflection everything you have said here is correct. I'm such a mong... please forgive me? This thread should be retitled "what MTVN wants to talk about".
snnnnaps! :P

ange7 · 10-11-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

LOL. Who is this view aimed at? MOST of the people on that march and drive and enthuasism - well done for getting your 10 hour a day job (that is meant honestly) but I fail to see how you can call people wasters for going on to further education.

It's aimed at people who don't work in a factory 10 hours a day who he resents bitterly. hehe

Beastie · 10-11-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7

It's aimed at people who don't work in a factory 10 hours a day who he resents bitterly. hehe

I work in a warehouse. lol

However my shifts change. When work dries up I was only working there 2 days a week and I hope that doesn't happen again.

I feel sorry for our generation!

Judas · 10-11-2010, 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=arista;3904470]Thugs attacking all those working there
is not what this Demo was about.

[QUOTE]
Slightly off topic, but out of interest arista what are your views on the tuition fee increase?

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