[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

She'd have to be crazy to be happy with her size. :L

She's not unhappy with herself because she wears make-up :/ They cover her in it so it doesn't show up her spots and that. I think Cher is more content with herself, that's shown in her confidence

Have no idea what Mary feels about her size, I'm a size 10 myself so I have no idea if she's happy being a larger lady or not, perhaps you should be asking Mary if you are so concerned about her?

Ah, so the XFactor crew force Cher to wear as much make up.

And they plaster her every morning before she leaves the house too do they? So the huge fake eyelashes, overdone eyes and eyeliner, enough lipstick to sink the titanic also help cover her spots? !!!

You think she's confident, I think she's cocky and arrogant. There lies the difference in our opinion.

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Have no idea what Mary feels about her size, I'm a size 10 myself so I have no idea if she's happy being a larger lady or not, perhaps you should be asking Mary if you are so concerned about her?

Ah, so the XFactor crew force Cher to wear as much make up.

And they plaster her every morning before she leaves the house too do they? So the huge fake eyelashes, overdone eyes and eyeliner, enough lipstick to sink the titanic also help cover her spots? !!!

You think she's confident, I think she's cocky and arrogant. There lies the difference in our opinion.

I don't care how Mary feels, you bought it up.

And they do it for show, obviously she does it herself when she goes out, I don't see a problem with the amount of make-up she wears anyway, I don't get why it's even such an issue for you to worry about.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

If Mary went, it would save a fortune in the food department

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

I don't care how Mary feels, you bought it up.

And they do it for show, obviously she does it herself when she goes out, I don't see a problem with the amount of make-up she wears anyway, I don't get why it's even such an issue for you to worry about.

I think you will find Stacey that it was YOU who brought Mary into the equation, not me.

Oh I don't worry about Cher and her make up, but it doesn't stop me from commenting on the amount of it she cakes herself in.

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

PMSL. You bring Mary into the thread as a subject to add to the discussion, but then when you try to spin it onto someone else, who points out it was you yourself who raised the issue of Mary and her weight, you then say, "I don't care".

Of course I'm not a fan, I don't feel she is talented at all, she has an ugly personality as far as we are being shown, the press have very little good to say about her, and the very people that she is sharing a house with, can't stand her either.

The judges are there to make money via voters remember...they have a vested financial interest in keeping some contestants in.

Do I start threads every Saturday to say how vile Cher is? No i don't so your Wagner comment and related words are completely irrelevant to me.

You used the example of "how much less it would cost in make-up if Cher wasn't there" so I said it would cost less in food if Mary wasn't there, which is true. It doesn't mean that I suddenly care about her because I bought her name into it.

That's the press though, you can't know for sure a word of what they say is true. Maybe they're just not used to living with people like her, and because they're all under pressure with their practising each week etc. they have a fallout because of silly things.

The judges like Cher though, I know she's good for the show because she makes the headlines and that, but they said from day1 that she's talented and could be a pop star.

I didn't mention starting threads about her, just making comments in general about her everywhere. It seems you care about her more than any of the other contestants.