[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Stu

If it were not for a hand of luck the horrible little creature would be putting vinegar on my chips every Saturday night.

She didnt stumble upon Popstars the rivals auditions by accident. She won it through competing like everybody else.

And your line of logic applies to virtually every famous celebrity.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Zippy

She didnt stumble upon Popstars the rivals auditions by accident. She won it through competing like everybody else.

And your line of logic applies to virtually every famous celebrity.

I'm taking extent of fame into account. Her position in culture saddens me. You don't get there by winning a dodgy talent show.

And no. Not at all. Initial discovery being a product of luck may have played a part in the rise of many celebrities, but most of them then contributed their end of the bargain. Namely talent, inventiveness, intuition, creativity, hard work ... you know. All those crazy ass facets lost of the vast majority of the typecast noughties celebrity.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Stu

Your quick.

Forgive me for making a comment on an online forum that didn't take geographic discrepancies into account.

Ok, I forgive you

[Stu]

You had nowhere else to go with that one, eh.

[Smithy]

nope

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Stu

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Stu

You had nowhere else to go with that one, eh.

all hail king of the internet!

[Stu]

And steal the crown from you? TiBB's own epicurean master of the informative post?

Here, have a hyphen. From me to you.

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Stu

And steal the crown from you? TiBB's own epicurean master of the informative post?

Here, have a hyphen. From me to you.

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why the sarcasm i was only trying to be nice

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by simonsays

why the sarcasm i was only trying to be nice

lol.

[Lee.]

I don't really get the OP's point?

Are you talking about Cheryl "accepting Wagners apolgy and being a gracious lady... blah blah blah"?

In my opinion it should have been him accepting HER apology for acting like an unproffesional witch!

[Truth Teller]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Oops. I thought you were gonna ask about Cheryl's shocked/pissed off/jealous face when Rebecca was put through.....
What is this woman doing on this show? She's extraordinarily stupid, guileless and mean-spirited - not to mention the fact that she couldn't sing her way out of a paper bag.

That too - your best act and you do a face like that.......

[fruit_cake]

I don't know why she let Simon talk for her.. she should stand up for herself

[Supermum]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't know why she let Simon talk for her.. she should stand up for herself

Cos she couldn't. She's not quick enough

[fruit_cake]

she went bright red while Simon was taking over the talking

[keithafc]

Wagner is one of the few people with dignity on the show. Rebecca 2nd. Mary 3rd.

But thats it.

1D - NO DIGNITY
Cher - NO DIGNITY
Matt - NO DIGNITY

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by happyland

I don't really get the OP's point?

Are you talking about Cheryl "accepting Wagners apolgy and being a gracious lady... blah blah blah"?

In my opinion it should have been him accepting HER apology for acting like an unproffesional witch!

Very well said Happyland, I absolutely agree with that.

[Supermum]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Very well said Happyland, I absolutely agree with that.

me too

[Mystic Mock]

i think we all agree that cheryl was in the wrong except for a few die hard chavryl fans on the internet.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

she went bright red while Simon was taking over the talking

no she didnt. Quit lying.

Simon jumped in and she just waited for him to finish.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zippy

no she didnt. Quit lying.

Simon jumped in and she just waited for him to finish.

howcome she didnt try and talk after simon had finished then?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Stu

I'm taking extent of fame into account. Her position in culture saddens me. You don't get there by winning a dodgy talent show.

And no. Not at all. Initial discovery being a product of luck may have played a part in the rise of many celebrities, but most of them then contributed their end of the bargain. Namely talent, inventiveness, intuition, creativity, hard work ... you know. All those crazy ass facets lost of the vast majority of the typecast noughties celebrity.

Thats more to do with the media coverage rather than the people involved. There is no blame for putting people in such a position other than with the "journalists". Cheryl is completely irrelevant in her position, shes just the latest figure symbolising rags to riches but her media star is starting to wane and the next one will be along shortly (most likely Stacey Solomon after her stint on IAC). That isn't something wrong with Cheryl at all.

[Vodka Drinka]

I'm so glad people are finally starting to see through the odious chav that is Cheryl Cole. She's a nasty, hard faced cow and I've never bought into the Nations Sweetheart bollocks. Watching her and Cowell slime all over each other makes me feel physically sick!

No wonder Cheryl fawns over Cher, they are like two peas in a pod. Both spoiled, petulant, hard faced little madams from rough as arseholes, crime ridden families who live on sink estates. How long before Cher gets an assault charge like her idol?