[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

Like what exactly? Just because I don't think he's Jesus Reincarnate doesn't mean I'm jealous. Also if you read my post after that you'd have seen I said I wasn't accusing anyone on tibb of it, only the casual voters. So before you start biting at me read my posts in future please.

Unbelievably bitter, and completely incensed - that's exactly how you appear to be coming across.

Do you have some direct personal involvment in the show and who the winner is: you seem to have some real anger going on. It's a show. It's not the end of the world.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Unbelievably bitter, and completely incensed - that's exactly how you appear to be coming across.

Do you have some direct personal involvment in the show and who the winner is: you seem to have some real anger going on. It's a show. It's not the end of the world.

You're the one getting personal my friend. I've not accused anyone on this site of voting for him because of his looks yet I'm being branded as bitter & jealous just because my views aren't with the majority. Deal with it.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

You're the one getting personal my friend. I've not accused anyone on this site of voting for him because of his looks yet I'm being branded as bitter & jealous just because my views aren't with the majority. Deal with it.

Okay, you are telling me you are dicussing things reasonably, calmly and not displaying any signs of being bitter or angry about the final results?

I doubt it.

Oh, I'm not being personal, I'm giving my opinion on your comments and how your comments are being read. You personally may not be bitter, but that is how your posts are coming across: loud and clear.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Okay, you are telling me you are dicussing things reasonably, calmly and not displaying any signs of being bitter or angry about the final results?

I doubt it.

Oh, I'm not being personal, I'm giving my opinion on your comments and how your comments are being read. You personally may not be bitter, but that is how your posts are coming across: loud and clear.

Please I've always argued my points why Matt was undeserving loud and clear and I've given him credit too, I could repeat them hear but I'd only get called bitter again because my opinion goes against yours so what's the point?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

Please I've always argued my points why Matt was undeserving loud and clear and I've given him credit too, I could repeat them hear but I'd only get called bitter again because my opinion goes against yours so what's the point?

You seriously don't think you aren't going completely overboard on this? Seriously?

It's a show. The man won. It's over.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Snowball

You seriously don't think you aren't going completely overboard on this? Seriously?

It's a show. The man won. It's over.

I'm not i'm discusiing this calmly and reasonably, you're the one trying to paint me as some sort of raving lunatic instead of trying to take on my very valid points head one.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

I'm not i'm discusiing this calmly and reasonably, you're the one trying to paint me as some sort of raving lunatic instead of trying to take on my very valid points head one.

I don't have to paint you as anything. I think I'm most likely that I am not alone in thinking that you are taking this all a wee bit to heart.

Feel free to vent of course, but I certainly don't think your posts sounds as though you are calm or reasonable about it all. You seem to simply not be able to accept that the man won fair and square. That's the very valid point you seem to be missing I'm afraid.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

I'm not i'm discusiing this calmly and reasonably, you're the one trying to paint me as some sort of raving lunatic instead of trying to take on my very valid points head one.

You do make reasonable criticisms. Matt does struggle in sustained low notes. He hasn't found a unique sound and needs one as his natural voice quality is 'plain' as you said.
It is also true he is great with ballads but not so hot when it comes to rock and roll/pop.

The 'irrational' part seems to come along when we ask 'compared to what'?
Compared to Celine Dion?
Compared to Michael Buble?
Compared to what a flawless singer ought to sound like?
More importantly here is - compared to what other contestants?

Matt's 'flaws' were still better than most any other contestants bests.
Matt's weaker 'low note' was still a much better low note than (for example) Cher's best low note.
Matt's slight struggle with rock and roll was still sung levels beyond Katie's best Rock and Roll performance.
and so on....

Even here it becomes the overall comparison. Matt's strengths were very strong and heavily outweighed his weaknesses. This cannot be said for other performers who (for example) maybe could sustain a low note better than Matt but did not come close to him on (example) high-notes.

The question isn't whether or not Matt is the perfect singer in the UK or world today and therefore deserving of this.
The question is "was Matt the best in this competition" and yes he was.

Having said that - I still LOVE Rebecca and I don't consider there to be a huge gap between those two.
Mary is another.

But justice was served and here is the thing with Matt - he CAN improve his slightly weak areas.
(and he does not have to do rock and roll either).

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

I'm not i'm discusiing this calmly and reasonably, you're the one trying to paint me as some sort of raving lunatic instead of trying to take on my very valid points head one.

coming from somebody that had matt as there 3rd favourite this year,i do think your posts come across quite bitter about matt? did he do something to you in the past?