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Most psychopaths are seasoned and practised liars and have no trouble presenting a calm demeanour under pressure. There are apparently similarities between this young woman's murder and that of another some years back, and possibly others who are still missing, so who knows? Perhaps they've found a serial killer in this seemingly innocent looking pensioner.

Surely a staple requisite of any self respecting serial killer is to be able to appear completely normal and harmless in order to get close to their victims? Look at the likes of Fred West, Myra Hindley and, as you say, Ian Huntley.
Yep, sociopathy/psychopathy - studied it years ago - not all are serial killers mind you, although I have to agree in that I wouldn't be surprised if this man has struck before. As InOne said, most 65 year old pensioners don't usually randomly murder on a 'one of' notion - this will be an interesting case to follow.

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Yep, sociopathy/psychopathy - studied it years ago - not all are serial killers mind you, although I have to agree in that I wouldn't be surprised if this man has struck before. As InOne said, most 65 year old pensioners don't usually randomly murder on a 'one of' notion - this will be an interesting case to follow.

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Dunno really, cos it could turn out the guy is a serial killer and the police knew it all along, as to why it made headlines. I just thought there was always something funny about it.
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Dunno really, cos it could turn out the guy is a serial killer and the police knew it all along, as to why it made headlines. I just thought there was always something funny about it.
You've changed your mind then....in that you don't think they were being fickle - and running with the story because she was 'pretty' and had a decent job?

I think in all honestly, when the media run with stories like this, that they do have access to info which is agreed by both parties to be 'embargoed' due to the nature of the investigations: and that the police and press work very closely in an effort to get to the truth of the matter - ie: catch the person responsible.
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You've changed your mind then....in that you don't think they were being fickle - and running with the story because she was 'pretty' and had a decent job?

I think in all honestly, when the media run with stories like this, that they do have access to info which is agreed by both parties to be 'embargoed' due to the nature of the investigations: and that the police and press work very closely in an effort to get to the truth of the matter - ie: catch the person responsible.
They are being fickle in a sense. Everyone loves a poor innocent girl being strangled and raped by a serial killer story don't they. Why do you think people remember serial killers and not the victims
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They are being fickle in a sense. Everyone loves a poor innocent girl being strangled and raped by a serial killer story don't they. Why do you think people remember serial killers and not the victims

ERmmmm...because serial killers are in the minority - ie: out of the ordinary and unusual.

Nah, I still disagree that they were being fickle. When there were deaths years ago in Glasgow, of prostitutes - hardly the most glamourous of types or profession - when it was in it's early stages, the media gave it as much attention.

I still think it was simply initially a missing girl hunt, that had too many things 'not quite right' (ie: her keys, purse, phone etc all being in the house) for it to be simply a missing person...... I reckon the cops had a pretty good idea that it wasn't a missing person they were going to find, but a body.

Anyhoooo..... it'll be interesting to see how it all develops. Poor family though.
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Why so many maps from his Car , the police removed
how many others has he had.


After the 96 hours they have to let him go or charge him
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Right so now we have all this, but I bet if a kid was murdered tomorrow, this would totally vanish from the headlines and only end up on the Bristol news. It's the way it works. Like when those shooting happened a few days apart
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The poor guy doesn't even look strong enough to strangle a fly
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A party guest at a home opposite said she heard screams coming from the direction of the flat at around the time Mr Jefferies claimed he saw her

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maybe thats how he gets it Up
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Right so now we have all this, but I bet if a kid was murdered tomorrow, this would totally vanish from the headlines and only end up on the Bristol news. It's the way it works. Like when those shooting happened a few days apart
I honestly don't think it would disappear - clearly any murdered kiddie (god forbid) story would take precedence I'm sure, but I do think this would still be high on the headlines.

The woman who was at the party 'across the way' who heard screams about 9pm - can you imagine how she must be feeling ? Not at all that there is anything for her to feel bad about, but I think it's human nature to consider, "What if I'd have done something".

When I was younger - If I let out a scream and it wasn't done for good reason (ie: being in danger etc), I got thumped by my father for it..... and it's something I notice these days: younger ones scream and screech at the top of their voices outside that it no longer signifies a cry for help.
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I don't have to look up any cases. I think they are quite right to go 'heavy at it' when it comes to children. I do - because we know live in a society whereby there are so many sick bastards out there who do the most appalling things to very young and defenceless children: to their own flesh and blood, who torture,maim, and treat in the most goddawful way, causing untold suffering.

I personally prefer to know what sort of sick bastards are out there, what evil they dished out.. why? Because those responsible for it need to feel just a little what it's like to live in complete and utter fear and terror:- and I hope they live a long life suffering and being terrified of who is going to attack them next, who is goign to harm them next.

I'm in the 'eye for an eye' brigade. None of this 'forgiveness' crap for me, thanks very much. Forgiving doesn't bring back a young child's life - or anyone elses for that matter: but I'm homing in on the young child as that's what your aiming at .

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You're a disgrace.
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Oh and to the people that think that this guy must be a pervert because of his appearance, please try and avoid having preconceived ideas like this. He is innocent until proven guilty. We simply do not know all the facts yet. He could very well be innocent.

By the way, hello everyone. This forum looks cool.
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Funny it's you, the one I criticised, who is calling troll.

The only reason you're calling me a troll is because it deflects the argument I made.

The fact remains, your views are so congruent with those touted repeatedly in the Daily Hatemail. You seem to be unable to understand how these tabloids operate, probably because they've brainwashed you with their drivel.

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Funny it's you, the one I criticised, who is calling troll.

The only reason you're calling me a troll is because it deflects the argument I made.

The fact remains, your views are so congruent with those touted repeatedly in the Daily Hatemail. You seem to be unable to understand how these tabloids operate, probably because they've brainwashed you with their drivel.
Ahhh..... poor Artificial snow - can't actually make comment on the thread but goes about attacking forum members posts just because you disagree !! Tough luck - I've got my opinion and I'll stick to it. I really don't give a flying fig what you think - about my opinions or indeed me: you are merely some sad wee soul who joined a forum for what..... to say you don't like someone. Great stuff, that's really 'big' of you.


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Does a white majority country with a white majority press, focus on a majority of white victim crime? yes.

Is that wrong? i dunno.

Is the press opportunistic and sensationalist? yes.
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Yes well Shifty bloke,
Of Course after a while they may let him go if her did not do it.

He looks like a retired old ******. Can't imagine he attacked her for sexual reasons. Maybe she was behind with rent or something?

Of course, he could be entirely innocent.
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