[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by angus58

It does seem odd that the BF in particular didn't try calling her between the evening of the 17th and the 19th when he returned home.

I do too. I find it very odd. But hey, different folks, different strokes.

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

I think CJ was used as a scapegoat to appease the press and to lull the real killer into a false sense of security.

Also to make it look like they were doing something.

I do too.

Re: the friend of Jo's. I def recall reading / hearing it because I recall thinking that if a friend was coming round to help her clear up, that the flat must have been in some helluva state.

Still mooching - I did come across this though:-

Police said there were no signs of forced entry at the flat but Jo’s parents were convinced she had been abducted when they saw the state of the property. David said: “We knew what the flat was like. We know what she does and doesn’t do. “We were 100% convinced within 30 minutes of arriving she had been abducted.”

He said there were “other factors, other reasons that we’ve been asked by the police not to go into”, that left him convinced she had been snatched.

David added: “We had grave concerns based on what was in the flat. We knew she had not gone of her own volition. We came to the conclusion it was unlikely she would have been found alive.

“The state of the flat indicated she had been abducted. Jo and Greg were quite untidy and we knew she was planning on tidying up on Saturday.

“On top of that she did not respond to Greg’s texts that night and they were both devoted to each other.”

Last part is weird...... didnt either the mother or father say that it was not unususal for Jo not to respond to text messages? In fact, without hunting for it, I'm sure the wording that was reported was, "it was consistent" (ie; that she didn't respond to texts).

As for the what was 'in' the flat, and what the father said the police asked him not to go into:- the father has been pretty adamant all along that she was abducted (and then killed).

[Pyramid*]

Jo was reported missing after Greg, 27, returned to their flat on Sunday night following a weekend visiting his family in Sheffield.
Greg, who is also an architect, tried to contact Jo over the weekend but she failed to answer her phone and texts.
David said it was not unusual, adding: "It was consistent with what she was like."

From the Sun. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...Jo-Yeates.html

so I'm unclear why at a later stage, the comment in my last post was made - as it's worded that her not responding was odd.

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I do too. I find it very odd. But hey, different folks, different strokes.



I do too.

Re: the friend of Jo's. I def recall reading / hearing it because I recall thinking that if a friend was coming round to help her clear up, that the flat must have been in some helluva state.

Then can you obviously see her throwing a pizza box in the dustbin, especially after she's been out for a drink???

[babycakes]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Then can you obviously see her throwing a pizza box in the dustbin, especially after she's been out for a drink???

and not very tidy according to her parents. I think Pizza never made it home; it was dropped along the way perhaps ?

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by babycakes

and not very tidy according to her parents. I think Pizza never made it home; it was dropped along the way perhaps ?

I think she got a lift home.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by babycakes

and not very tidy according to her parents. I think Pizza never made it home; it was dropped along the way perhaps ?

It's a possibility! If she got a lift home as some are thinking - she could have accidentally left it in the car? If it was the killer who gave her a lift, they're hardly likely to let the police know, "Hey, I found your missing pizza and box".

There is something really weird about this whole thing (not just the pizza) the whole kittinkaboddle.

[mrscolumbo]

What I can't get my head around is the comment by the father - if it is correct - that after 30 minutes of being in the apartment - not forgetting this is a small one bed apartment - parents realised she had been abducted being familiar with her habits on tidyness etc. - was this because the apartment had been maticulous cleaned - not a trait of the daughter - why did it take 30 minutes and not 3 minutes after entering the apartment - unless their comment was 3 minutes and was misrepresented in the press.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

What I can't get my head around is the comment by the father - if it is correct - that after 30 minutes of being in the apartment - not forgetting this is a small one bed apartment - parents realised she had been abducted being familiar with her habits on tidyness etc. - was this because the apartment had been maticulous cleaned - not a trait of the daughter - why did it take 30 minutes and not 3 minutes after entering the apartment - unless their comment was 3 minutes and was misrepresented in the press.

there are too many 'weird things' with this whole thing.

A couple that the father says were devoted: were so devoted that she didn't go home with Greg when he was to travel to visit relatives and be gone for the weekend. Bad weather and he's travelling away -so devoted that she says cheerio and heads to the pub, leaving him to head home, pack up and head off on his own? Most couples I know - they'd have gone home together, one seeing the other one off.

He tries to contact her by calls and texts for 2 full days - gets nothing and doesn't think to call the parents/friends etc to ask "Hey, cant get hold of Jo, is she ok?"

Having not been able to get hold of her - upon his arrival, it's obvious from cat / cat litter box that she's not been around - yet it's 4 hours before he reports this.

Father says that Jo not responding to texts/calls was consistent with the way she was - then another comment is made that Greg had been trying to call her he says,“On top of that she did not respond to Greg’s texts that night and they were both devoted to each other.” - which has an inclination to the contrary to her not answering texts.

The father saying being so sure that she had been abducted due to the state the flat was in (as mscolumbo mentions - why 30minutes for it to dawn on the father? ) and what was in the flat? What WAS in the flat that the police want to keep away from the public.

The amount of importance being placed on this missing pizza box etc.

The father's comment of "Welcome Home" (or something incredibly similar) when she was found dead.

There are just too many things so not right with all of it. None of it makes sense.

[mrscolumbo]

well said pyramid - who the hell would say after seeing/hearing that a body of their loved one had been found in such tragic circumstances 'welcome home' - if it was my daughter I would be baying for the culprits blood - not exchanging such pleasentries on the discovery!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

well said pyramid - who the hell would say after seeing/hearing that a body of their loved one had been found in such tragic circumstances 'welcome home' - if it was my daughter I would be baying for the culprits blood - not exchanging such pleasentries on the discovery!

I totally understand that there are people who are able to remain completely calm, serene etc in such hellish and tragic circumstances - I know the shock factor may have had something to do with it - but that still didn't sound right.

Again, it's only a figure of speech and nothing really can be read into it, but at the stage where she was still considered 'abducted', prior to her body being found, the father used the past tense, "She had so much life....." I know that could simply be nothing more than him saying what his head most likely knew.

Same as you say, with him being so certain that she'd been abducted from the onset.

So many things just don't tie in (obviously since the public aren't aware of the 'full picture' and aren't privvy to all that the police know).

It makes me think though that perhaps the police need to release some more information? Must be a hell of a position for those investigating all the same.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Then can you obviously see her throwing a pizza box in the dustbin, especially after she's been out for a drink???

Yes..... a person can be untidy by means of having clothes lying around, paperwork, work related things, study thing - it doesn't mean there would allow bins to overflow etc. So yes, still possible. She / they might have been untidy buggars but they could have still have thrown rubbish away.

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Yes..... a person can be untidy by means of having clothes lying around, paperwork, work related things, study thing - it doesn't mean there would allow bins to overflow etc. So yes, still possible. She / they might have been untidy buggars but they could have still have thrown rubbish away.

So they were only untidy with clothes and not food youre saying.

what categories do pizza boxes, toothpaste, carrier bags and cat litter come under?????? food or clothes???

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

So they were only untidy with clothes and not food youre saying.

what categories do pizza boxes, toothpaste, carrier bags and cat litter come under?????? food or clothes???

Yes, I'm saying it is entirely possible.

Because someone may be untidy - it doesn't automatically mean they will have overflowing rubbish all over the place.

The place could have been strewn with sketches, paintings, books, DVDs, CDs, clothing - it doesn't necessarily mean that they pile up rubbish.