[InOne]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Nothing and I mean NOTHING could be as bad as Fack....... Yeah Cocaine is good....its missing something though.....

His flow isn't totally there in it. He changes half way through and goes too fast sometimes.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

OK In One, I'll bite. I'm pretty much allergic to rap, but will listen to Eminem and the main reason is that I think he's a very clever and competent lyricist. I love poetry and literature and the shoite that normally passes for lyrics in rap offends my ears. I also think that Eminem's moments of misogyny are tongue in cheek, whereas a lot more of it, well, isn't. Having said all of that, I do think he's a bit of a controversy ***** and has sacrificed a lot of his credibility by pushing the envelope way too far. I really didn't like the Rihanna thingy. Very crass, I thought.

How many other rappers have you tried? Genuine Hip Hop artists or todays muck?

Wu Tang, Public Enemy, Tupac, KRS-One ... those boys can string a meaningful lyric together as well as Eminem ever could.

[Smithy]

I think I read cocaine was missing a verse

Obviously it wasn't mastered either which is why it sounded kinda scratchy

[Shaun]

Public Enemy

[InOne]

Yeah I always wondered why there was only 2 and she goes on singing for ages

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by InOne

His flow isn't totally there in it. He changes half way through and goes too fast sometimes.

It's like most of his songs now he doesnt know what to do..... I do wish he'd just ****ing find that flow he had around 99/00

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Iceman

It's like most of his songs now he doesnt know what to do..... I do wish he'd just ****ing find that flow he had around 99/00

Yeah, I mean he starts off normal but swtiches to going fast and that annoying accent

[InOne]

That's why I like Dre, you'd never catch him working with the likes of Rihanna or Katy Perry

Snoop and Em

I do always wonder if Biggie and 2pac would've sold out

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yeah, I mean he starts off normal but swtiches to going fast and that annoying accent

Yeah he's filtering that out though and you could tell by this album he was delibrately trying to not use it.....

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by InOne

That's why I like Dre, you'd never catch him working with the likes of Rihanna or Katy Perry

Snoop and Em

I do always wonder if Biggie and 2pac would've sold out

I doubt it....I dont think they would want to..... (again its another who knows kinda thing)

[Z]

I dunno, I guess he stands out for various reasons - he writes witty lyrics, he makes pops at various figures in popular culture, his music is radio friendly, the anger behind some of his songs is remarkable, he's done collaborations with the right sort of people at the right sort of time (Dido at her peak, Rihanna at her peak to give two examples off the top of my head) to remind everyone he's still on top of his game. Sure he's had a few misfires but most artists have; I think he's that accessible bridge between pop and the rap genre, in the same way that Jay Z or Kanye West are, for example.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Zee

I dunno, I guess he stands out for various reasons - he writes witty lyrics, he makes pops at various figures in popular culture, his music is radio friendly, the anger behind some of his songs is remarkable, he's done collaborations with the right sort of people at the right sort of time (Dido at her peak, Rihanna at her peak to give two examples off the top of my head) to remind everyone he's still on top of his game. Sure he's had a few misfires but most artists have; I think he's that accessible bridge between pop and the rap genre, in the same way that Jay Z or Kanye West are, for example.

Dido was pretty much an unknown at the time. She shot to fame after working with him.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Zee

I dunno, I guess he stands out for various reasons - he writes witty lyrics, he makes pops at various figures in popular culture, his music is radio friendly, the anger behind some of his songs is remarkable, he's done collaborations with the right sort of people at the right sort of time (Dido at her peak, Rihanna at her peak to give two examples off the top of my head) to remind everyone he's still on top of his game. Sure he's had a few misfires but most artists have; I think he's that accessible bridge between pop and the rap genre, in the same way that Jay Z or Kanye West are, for example.

Well put.