[Stu]

Popularity can come from talent too, though. I hate threads like these because it's a narrow question that causes people to have narrow views.

Best case scenario is to be talented which then translates into popularity, IMO. Jordan is popular but who gives a fuck, like.

Also, plenty of popular people are utter cunts. Plenty just appeal to a large base of lowest common denominator. I hate this idea that they must posess some amazing 'talent' of being naturally likeable.