[Omah]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

T'is not quantity - it's quality that matters Omah.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

yeah...there are no BB fans over the age of 20 on here eh...... *shakes head*

BB and KP are million miles apart in terms of entertainment - BB provides it, KP doesn't. She's just a breathing self publicity machine and imo, a throughly dislikable woman.

personally i agree, just im saying that is an opinion. we wouldnt like all the KP fans dissing bb the whole time and we would tell them they are wrong. so whats the difference you guys doing it to her. she has done nothing personally to the majority of the people who hate her, she doesnt deserve the treatment she gets.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

personally i agree, just im saying that is an opinion. we wouldnt like all the KP fans dissing bb the whole time and we would tell them they are wrong. so whats the difference you guys doing it to her. she has done nothing personally to the majority of the people who hate her, she doesnt deserve the treatment she gets.

I'm not altogether sure I catch your drift here? You don't think she deserves to be publically derided: I happen to feel that she brings it on herself. I don't particularly care if KP fans hate BB, or dissy BB - it's a personal choice - one isn't interlinked to another. Personally speaking: I'd not be telling any KP fan they were wrong for not liking BB.....that's their choice, that's their opinion and they've every right to it. Bin Laden hasn't done anything to me personally, but I don't like hm either..... (mmmm...2nd thoughts, he lost me quite a packet in stocks and shares..... maybe that wasn't the best example)

You'll remember all the fuss she kicked up (before she met her latest bedmate) after her deciding she wasn't wanting her kids photographed etc and created merry hell when Pete wouldn't toe her line. Funny how she was happy to have them pictured and snapped with her new man, carrying them around the place, then having then posing for pics together at her theme park visit recently.

There's one very good reason people dislike her: she's the biggest hypocrite ever - with her, it's not 'Do as I do', it's do as I say. She makes out she's always a victim: you only need to see her reality show to see how she speaks to people, how the treats people - partners that she is meant to love - but the second they bite back: she makes out she's Miss Innocent.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'm not altogether sure I catch your drift here? You don't think she deserves to be publically derided: I happen to feel that she brings it on herself. I don't particularly care if KP fans hate BB, or dissy BB - it's a personal choice - one isn't interlinked to another. Personally speaking: I'd not be telling any KP fan they were wrong for not liking BB.....that's their choice, that's their opinion and they've every right to it. Bin Laden hasn't done anything to me personally, but I don't like hm either..... (mmmm...2nd thoughts, he lost me quite a packet in stocks and shares..... maybe that wasn't the best example)

You'll remember all the fuss she kicked up (before she met her latest bedmate) after her deciding she wasn't wanting her kids photographed etc and created merry hell when Pete wouldn't toe her line. Funny how she was happy to have them pictured and snapped with her new man, carrying them around the place, then having then posing for pics together at her theme park visit recently.

There's one very good reason people dislike her: she's the biggest hypocrite ever - with her, it's not 'Do as I do', it's do as I say. She makes out she's always a victim: you only need to see her reality show to see how she speaks to people, how the treats people - partners that she is meant to love - but the second they bite back: she makes out she's Miss Innocent.

cant remember saying the bit in bold tbh.

just think, she has a reality show thats heavily edited. magazines make **** up, you dont know her so how do you know whats real. yeah maybe she treats people like crap but you dont know her, your not there.
you cant really compare her to bin laden. he killed people. which is seen as legally and morally wrong.

KP hasnt dont anything to that magnitude.

im just saying i dont understand why people waste their time hating her. its not like it affects you unless you choose to let it.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

cant remember saying the bit in bold tbh.

just think, she has a reality show thats heavily edited. magazines make **** up, you dont know her so how do you know whats real. yeah maybe she treats people like crap but you dont know her, your not there.
you cant really compare her to bin laden. he killed people. which is seen as legally and morally wrong.

KP hasnt dont anything to that magnitude.

im just saying i dont understand why people waste their time hating her. its not like it affects you unless you choose to let it.

You keep using the word 'Hate', yet I don't read many if any saying they 'Hate' katie Price? And why is it worrying you so much what others think of her?

There are many reasons, why we go through life disliking some people, sometimes be it irrational or not, no reasoning to it. For my part, my dislike ( note I don't say the word 'Hate'), of Katie Price is that she comes across as an irritating excuse for a human being, who seems to be all mememe, and yet does little of note to earn her pennies. Just maybe a bit more compassion for others from her, might make her more likeable. I don't like her, and am not going to apologise for that, be it irrational or not, nor am I going to explain away any more reasons just because it may peeve you. If you can honestly say that you have never ever disliked or to use your own word here, 'Hated' someone on TV or Big Brother and voted accordingly because of that, then you are a better person than I then.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Suze

You keep using the word 'Hate', yet I don't read many if any saying they 'Hate' katie Price? And why is it worrying you so much what others think of her?

There are many reasons, why we go through life disliking some people, sometimes be it irrational or not, no reasoning to it. For my part, my dislike ( note I don't say the word 'Hate'), of Katie Price is that she comes across as an irritating excuse for a human being, who seems to be al mememe, just maybe a bit moree compassion for others might make her more likeable. I don't like her, and am not going to apologise for that, be it irrational or not, nor am I going to explain away any more reasons just because it may peeve you. If you can honestly say that you have never ever disliked or to use your own word here, 'Hated' someone on TV or Big Brother and voted accordinglyt because of that, then you are a better person than I then.

true i have in the past, but i do try not too as much as possible. however i was just giving my opinions on the subject matter. people saying: wish shed died kinda thing is a bit far in my opinion.

im just defending someone i think is treated unfairly as many others do for many other things so i feel that im not unjust in my statements. but it is a matter of opinion so im not saying anyone is wrong for what they think.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

cant remember saying the bit in bold tbh.

just think, she has a reality show thats heavily edited. magazines make **** up, you dont know her so how do you know whats real. yeah maybe she treats people like crap but you dont know her, your not there.
you cant really compare her to bin laden. he killed people. which is seen as legally and morally wrong.

KP hasnt dont anything to that magnitude.
im just saying i dont understand why people waste their time hating her. its not like it affects you unless you choose to let it.

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

personally i agree, just im saying that is an opinion. we wouldnt like all the KP fans dissing bb the whole time and we would tell them they are wrong. so whats the difference you guys doing it to her. she has done nothing personally to the majority of the people who hate her, she doesnt deserve the treatment she gets.

Short memory you have - I've highlighted to refresh your memory.

I may not know her but neither do you -- which makes it a very even playing field as far as our opinions are concerned.

I didn't compare her to Bin Laden - you were the one who used the synopisis..... KP has done nothing to you on a personal level (and therefore we shouldn't comment negatively on her). I used that as an example of a person that I've never known, who has never done me any harm personally -yet have no love for. It was a very clear example of the 'personally knowing a person' point of view, and it meaning nothing.

You, as Suze says, are the one who continues to bring the word 'hate' and haters into things.

I haven't expressed a wish for her to die - perhaps you might want to address that to those who did?

I don't understand why people waste so much time discussing soap stars and the roles they play - but that's what makes people unique - we all have our differing interests - whether we agree or not is entirely a different matter.

Any thoughts on my comment about her being such a hypocrite in respect of using/not using/using the children in posed shots: you know- after her berating and faulting Peter for doing exactly the same thing she faults him for?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

cant remember saying the bit in bold tbh.

just think, she has a reality show thats heavily edited. magazines make **** up, you dont know her so how do you know whats real. yeah maybe she treats people like crap but you dont know her, your not there.
you cant really compare her to bin laden. he killed people. which is seen as legally and morally wrong.

KP hasnt dont anything to that magnitude.

im just saying i dont understand why people waste their time hating her. its not like it affects you unless you choose to let it.

What makes it hilarious is they go out of their way to hate on her. They'll read every article posting about her on the internet just so they can their dig in about it its so petty.

You get the ones who say 'Why is this woman still getting press attention' Well its because of all her haters who cant help but be interested in what she gets up to. They can't see that they're actually doing her a favour by keeping her popular.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...pregnancy.html

ahhhh, not good pulling out two years in a row.

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Didn't she pull out last year too?

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Errr he can't even speak english, he wouldn't know what the **** she is saying. :L

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Because its blantantly a made up story

Originally Posted by Jordan.

What makes it hilarious is they go out of their way to hate on her. They'll read every article posting about her on the internet just so they can their dig in about it its so petty.

You get the ones who say 'Why is this woman still getting press attention' Well its because of all her haters who cant help but be interested in what she gets up to. They can't see that they're actually doing her a favour by keeping her popular.

I'd say "Welcome to the, 'They' Club" Jordan.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'd say "Welcome to the, 'They' Club" Jordan.

Im not a hater I like Katie.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Im not a hater I like Katie.

I don't hate her either - can't stand the woman but don't hate.

Just pointing out that you make comment on her/her life as much as any and not always in the most favourable way ....... you know, just saying and all that.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't hate her either - can't stand the woman but don't hate.

Just pointing out that you make comment on her/her life as much as any and not always in the most favourable way ....... you know, just saying and all that.

Fair enough, Im glad we have come to an understanding...this time

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Short memory you have - I've highlighted to refresh your memory.

I may not know her but neither do you -- which makes it a very even playing field as far as our opinions are concerned.

I didn't compare her to Bin Laden - you were the one who used the synopisis..... KP has done nothing to you on a personal level (and therefore we shouldn't comment negatively on her). I used that as an example of a person that I've never known, who has never done me any harm personally -yet have no love for. It was a very clear example of the 'personally knowing a person' point of view, and it meaning nothing.

You, as Suze says, are the one who continues to bring the word 'hate' and haters into things.

I haven't expressed a wish for her to die - perhaps you might want to address that to those who did?

I don't understand why people waste so much time discussing soap stars and the roles they play - but that's what makes people unique - we all have our differing interests - whether we agree or not is entirely a different matter.

Any thoughts on my comment about her being such a hypocrite in respect of using/not using/using the children in posed shots: you know- after her berating and faulting Peter for doing exactly the same thing she faults him for?

i never said i liked her and people should. im just saying people may aswell feel neutral. i dont hate her nor like her. i dont think her actions are sensible some of the time but they dont affect me directly so why should i let them indirectly affect me.

also i never said dont comment if she has never done anything personally. i said i dont understand why people do it.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Short memory you have - I've highlighted to refresh your memory.

I may not know her but neither do you -- which makes it a very even playing field as far as our opinions are concerned.

I didn't compare her to Bin Laden - you were the one who used the synopisis..... KP has done nothing to you on a personal level (and therefore we shouldn't comment negatively on her). I used that as an example of a person that I've never known, who has never done me any harm personally -yet have no love for. It was a very clear example of the 'personally knowing a person' point of view, and it meaning nothing.

You, as Suze says, are the one who continues to bring the word 'hate' and haters into things.

I haven't expressed a wish for her to die - perhaps you might want to address that to those who did?

I don't understand why people waste so much time discussing soap stars and the roles they play - but that's what makes people unique - we all have our differing interests - whether we agree or not is entirely a different matter.

Any thoughts on my comment about her being such a hypocrite in respect of using/not using/using the children in posed shots: you know- after her berating and faulting Peter for doing exactly the same thing she faults him for?

people can comment whatever way they want stop telling them what to do.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Iceman

people can comment whatever way they want stop telling them what to do.

I'll expect your apology Iceman. If you read through the thread..... I was in fact NOT TELLING ANYONE WHAT TO DO. I was responding to Charlie's comment of

she (KP) has done nothing personally to the majority of the people who hate her, she doesnt deserve the treatment she gets

.

Rather than jump down my throat - how about reading what I wrote: it was Charlie who used the synopsis "KP has done nothing to you personally therefore we shouldn't speak negatively about her". - So I wasn't telling anyone to do anything, I was in fact, quoting the opinion that Charlie was putting over - and why I felt people should be able to say what they want about her - good or bad.

Perhaps if you weren't so quick to find fault, you'd have understood what I was meaning.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

i never said i liked her and people should. im just saying people may aswell feel neutral. i dont hate her nor like her. i dont think her actions are sensible some of the time but they dont affect me directly so why should i let them indirectly affect me.

also i never said dont comment if she has never done anything personally. i said i dont understand why people do it.

Surely the same could be said of any person in the public spotlight - or indeed any other utterly disliked BB contestant?

They are in the public eye: and KP seeks out attention of the press (why else run her own reality show?) - she craves attention: she's getting it - she knows fine well that the bad press still keeps her in the public eye: regardless of how she's being spoken about - she is still in the limelight.

[CharlieO]

yes it could be said for anyone in the world, if you read what i said i never said that people shouldnt act that way i just said i didnt understand it.

Surely the same could be said of any person in the public spotlight - or indeed any other utterly disliked BB contestant?

yes but this is the katie price thread and im discussing her. and giving my opinions.
i never said your opinions were wrong just questioned why you thought that way so dont go telling iceman it was me when infact neither of us said what he was accusing you of.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

personally i agree, just im saying that is an opinion. we wouldnt like all the KP fans dissing bb the whole time and we would tell them they are wrong. so whats the difference you guys doing it to her. she has done nothing personally to the majority of the people who hate her, she doesnt deserve the treatment she gets.

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

i never said i liked her and people should. im just saying people may aswell feel neutral. i dont hate her nor like her. i dont think her actions are sensible some of the time but they dont affect me directly so why should i let them indirectly affect me.

also i never said dont comment if she has never done anything personally. i said i dont understand why people do it.

I'd say your first quote BIB - more or less says because she hasn't done anything to anyone personally - she doesn't deserve the slagging she gets. Isn't that what you mean? If not: can you explain then - because I'm unsure what you do mean then..... because that's the only way I can read that viewpoint.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

yes it could be said for anyone in the world, if you read what i said i never said that people shouldnt act that way i just said i didnt understand it.



yes but this is the katie price thread and im discussing her. and giving my opinions.
i never said your opinions were wrong just questioned why you thought that way so dont go telling iceman it was me when infact neither of us said what he was accusing you of.

thanks for clarifying to Iceman that neither of us said what he was accusing me of.

If you read your post (together with my previous post) it's clear why I made mention of your previous comments - it does come over that unless we have some personal gripe with KP - that you think (note: think....not telling) we shouldn't really say anything that slags her off as she's not hurt any of us in a personal sense. Isn't that what you are saying?

As for this being a Katie Price thread - didn't hear you making the same noises when you were banging on about KP fans bashing Big Brother - what's Big Brother got to do with KP? Nothing but it was okay for you to mention something that has nothing to do with KP or this thread. The only reason I mentioned any BB comparison was because you brought it up in the first place.

[CharlieO]

firstly i said she doesn't in my opinion deserve all the **** she gets. in relation to comments about wishing death on her in the car crash. not you but others. then i questioned why people put so much effort into hating someone they supposedly dont like.

so firstly i gave my opinion, then i questioned why others feel a particular way about her when they havent ever spoken to her. no where did i say that anyone elses view wasnt valid i just wondered why.

in fact i feel as if i was actually being more open to others views because i mostly used modal verbs to describe her not outlining a definitive with opinions. where as you said stuff like this:

BB and KP are million miles apart in terms
BB provides it, KP doesn't.
she's the biggest hypocrite ever - with her, it's not 'Do as I do', it's do as I say. She makes out she's always a victim: you only need to see her reality show to see how she speaks to people, how the treats people

i gave opinions, you gave opinions as if they were facts.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

OMG can this woman disapear! If people start to lose interest something conveniently happens again to get her back in the papers! Gaaa go away and live your life in silence!!!
Same goes for peter ripping-off-michael-jacksons-performance-and-claiming-them-as-my-own andre!!! Is he seriously talking about Katie price again this week..grrr shut shut shut up

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

firstly i said she doesn't in my opinion deserve all the **** she gets. in relation to comments about wishing death on her in the car crash. not you but others. then i questioned why people put so much effort into hating someone they supposedly dont like.

so firstly i gave my opinion, then i questioned why others feel a particular way about her when they havent ever spoken to her. no where did i say that anyone elses view wasnt valid i just wondered why.

in fact i feel as if i was actually being more open to others views because i mostly used modal verbs to describe her not outlining a definitive with opinions. where as you said stuff like this:



i gave opinions, you gave opinions as if they were facts.

Well here's one of my opinions that is a fact. I can't stand the woman but I don't hate her. I'd have to know her personally to hate her.

You continually make mention of people who hate her, haters etc - simply because they don't like her. That's your opinion that they are haters - that is not a fact.

you asked why others felt disdain for her: said you couldn't understand why etc: I gave you a perfectly lucid example about her keeping her children out of the press etc: giving Peter grief for not doing the same, then she as recently as what, last week or so - had the paps snapping her , the kids, her latest man all playing happy families: I specifically used that as an example to help you see why people don't like her and want to comment negatively on her behaviour.

you never addressed that part I've mentioned above.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Well here's one of my opinions that is a fact. I can't stand the woman but I don't hate her. I'd have to know her personally to hate her.

You continually make mention of people who hate her, haters etc - simply because they don't like her. That's your opinion that they are haters - that is not a fact.

you asked why others felt disdain for her: said you couldn't understand why etc: I gave you a perfectly lucid example about her keeping her children out of the press etc: giving Peter grief for not doing the same, then she as recently as what, last week or so - had the paps snapping her , the kids, her latest man all playing happy families: I specifically used that as an example to help you see why people don't like her and want to comment negatively on her behaviour.

you never addressed that part I've mentioned above.

true i didnt and that was an error on my part for not reading the post simultaneously whilst i was replying. however i feel we are both on different pages so see no need to further this discussion and propose we just agree to have our own opinions that aren't definitively right or wrong.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

true i didnt and that was an error on my part for not reading the post simultaneously whilst i was replying. however i feel we are both on different pages so see no need to further this discussion and propose we just agree to have our own opinions that aren't definitively right or wrong.

Def agree to disagree!

However.... the example I gave, does it give you some idea of why some dislike her? She uses the press to deride Peter (ie: ref the kids and protecting them from publicity) - yet she does the very thing herself that she uses against Peter only weeks after making out that she had the kids best interest at heart - that faded away pretty quickly when she wanted the press to report and photograph her children having fun by her very new man.

She introduced the kids to Alex, weeks after Peter. Just when they were getting used to him - wham... he's gone and within a few short weeks, there's another man being introduced to them. That's one of the main reasons I feel she does deserve the negativity that she does. never can that type of behaviour be in the kids' best interest.

Don't get me wrong: she's pulled herself up by her bootlaces and ensured she's financially secure for the rest of her life: can't take that away from her

[Omah]

Will Katie Price be just one of a line-up of busty ex-girlfriends ?

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebri...l-obsession/1/

The most famous of Leandro's ex-girlfriends is former model and actress Brenda Gandini, who he dated for three years in 2005

'On the back of his split with Brenda he was consoled by another blonde, Maxim magazine temptress Lorena Wells, who's known in Argentina for her raunchy pictures,' says the pal.

'It wasn't as serious as it was with Brenda but they were seen out on dates.'

Another week, another glamour model - next on Leo's lusty list of luscious ladies came Alejandra Maglietti, who admitted on his TV show in 2008 they'd dated.

The Mexican lingerie model said at the time they'd spent 'intense' days together before he headed to China for a modelling gig.

'Leo was then linked to another glamour model called Silvina Escudero, who has the most stunning body,' a friend says.

'She was famous for getting down to a thong in an X-rated strip dance on the Argentinian version 
of Strictly.'

He's got the looks, the money and the models .....

I'm not jealous ..... really .....