[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zippy

dear Lord. What a narrow minded attitude.

thats just like saying you met a boring black person once and now associate all black people to be like that. Actually, its worse.

emotionally sterile? I would think if anybody knew about emotion its somebody struggling day to day trapped in a wheel chair. Seems its you thats emotionally sterile tbh.

A really good post Zippy,well said.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Claymores

This thread doesn't try to create a reaction? Jeez-oh kid - get a life or job. You seriously need to think about what yer saying.

I don't think it was intended the way you seem to think it is. Yes it is a sensitive question, but one that people have differing opinions on.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

As a wheelchair user myself, im absolutely astonished with some of the people's attitudes on this forum, of people who are in a wheelchair, im a happily married woman, i live life to full as best i can.

A huuuggggeee hug for you. I have nothing but respect. In a wheelchair I am sure you find things a lot harder than someone like me who still has use of her legs and yet you still see the bright side to life. Nothing but respect

[Jords]

I wouldnt go out my way to but if I liked them then yes I probably would.. without sounding horrible though it might go stale quick so I doubt it'd last.

However if I was in a good relationship with somebody, and then them became wheelchaired Id definitely stick with them

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

[Jords]

^
I watched a documentary on her, shes a legend.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

^^definitely

[Zippy]

*googles disabled porn*




j/k

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Zippy

*googles disabled porn*




j/k

[Claymores]

I still think that some of the TiBB sprogs should wake-up and smell the coffee. Sure, in a perfect world we'd all be physically able and wheelchairs a thing of the past.

Life doesn't work that way and people who need assistance are still the same people. Scotland had a sweet health campaign about 'seeing past' the problems of those with physical or mental impairments - it was essentially about abilities.

If OP becomes unemployed and down on his luck, I wouldn't start a thread "would you date an unemployed bloke?". It seems to me that it's picking on people for an aspect of them.

[Jords]

sproggies

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Grow. Up. You. 45. Year. Old. ****ing. Joke.

At least you managed not to break the swear filter with your well-argued post. Thanks for the contribution

Was it journalist you wanted in your career ambition??? I can see lots of potential there

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Claymores

I still think that some of the TiBB sprogs should wake-up and smell the coffee. Sure, in a perfect world we'd all be physically able and wheelchairs a thing of the past.

Life doesn't work that way and people who need assistance are still the same people. Scotland had a sweet health campaign about 'seeing past' the problems of those with physical or mental impairments - it was essentially about abilities.

If OP becomes unemployed and down on his luck, I wouldn't start a thread "would you date an unemployed bloke?". It seems to me that it's picking on people for an aspect of them.

I don't think he means any offence. Regardless of who is in a wheelchair and the reasons for it, some people can't see past the disability and the perceptions that come with it. Yes its mostly ignorance but it's still a genuine feeling that prevails in society.

A lot of people can't even look at somebody in a wheelchair; its like theyre invisible. I think they fear what could happen to them. Or maybe they fear they will give them a look of pity or disgust. Im very conscious of not wanting a disabled person to think Im pittying them. Thats the last thing they want.

But anyways, I think you're misreading the intentions of the thread just a little.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Claymores

I still think that some of the TiBB sprogs should wake-up and smell the coffee. Sure, in a perfect world we'd all be physically able and wheelchairs a thing of the past.

Life doesn't work that way and people who need assistance are still the same people. Scotland had a sweet health campaign about 'seeing past' the problems of those with physical or mental impairments - it was essentially about abilities.

If OP becomes unemployed and down on his luck, I wouldn't start a thread "would you date an unemployed bloke?". It seems to me that it's picking on people for an aspect of them.

This is not picking on anyone. It's a question based on the world in which we live and yes, sometimes there will be answers people don't like around this subject but again that is the world in which we live.

[Claymores]

You're probably right Zips

I'd told BigBrotherFan4Ever about how I work for a Council who think they have disabled access - the disabilities main Officer is a wheelchair user and made us try one day using wheelchairs - Chief Exec was shocked.

My point was that people are still people - when LemonJam is unemployed, I WILL do the nasty question about dating an unemployed.

[Princess]

I'd like to think so, if I want to be someone and they happen to be in a wheelchair it's not an issue.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

This is not picking on anyone. It's a question based on the world in which we live and yes, sometimes there will be answers people don't like around this subject but again that is the world in which we live.

OK would you date an unemployed bloke?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Claymores

You're probably right Zips

I'd told BigBrotherFan4Ever about how I work for a Council who think they have disabled access - the disabilities main Officer is a wheelchair user and made us try one day using wheelchairs - Chief Exec was shocked.

My point was that people are still people - when LemonJam is unemployed, I WILL do the nasty question about dating an unemployed.

That question has been asked on here before. It's not a nasty question. It's like someone asking if gay men should be allowed to adopt or would you date a black person. Again neither are nasty questions, but people will have opinions on them.

You act as if LJ has asked this question with hatred towards people in wheel chairs, when he clearly hasn't. Now I suggest you either leave the thread (and not get the last word like you feel the need to so often do) if it upsets you that much or leave LJ alone when he hasn't done anything wrong.

[cub]

It really shouldn't matter. It's the person you're dating not the chair. How would you be if the person you were going out with suddenly started using a wheelchair? Dump 'em??

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by Claymores

when LemonJam is unemployed, I WILL do the nasty question about dating an unemployed.

Bring it on. It's a perfectly valid question that I wouldn't be offended by if people answered no.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I don't think he means any offence. Regardless of who is in a wheelchair and the reasons for it, some people can't see past the disability and the perceptions that come with it. Yes its mostly ignorance but it's still a genuine feeling that prevails in society.

A lot of people can't even look at somebody in a wheelchair; its like theyre invisible. I think they fear what could happen to them. Or maybe they fear they will give them a look of pity or disgust. Im very conscious of not wanting a disabled person to think Im pittying them. Thats the last thing they want.

But anyways, I think you're misreading the intentions of the thread just a little.

Again why does it have to be ignorance or fear? What if someone plain just feels they are entitled to have a healthy relationship with someone who can walk, run jump around in the park etc like they can?

I know that sounds absoloutely awful but christ. I'd rather go out with a girl who can offer more and do all the things I do both in the physical sense as well as the emotional sense. That's me being honest. We should all be entitled to that much, no?

I'm not ignorant or fearful or people in wheelchairs I just ... wouldn't go out with them.

These responses astound me. Some of you are living in a complete fantasy world. By all means speak for yourselves but don't speak for everyone else.

I'm sure the answers would be very different if we were talking about someone with a heavy physical deformity.

'It's all about the person. You're just ignorant' .

[midlandman]

if they make you happy then yes

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Claymores

At least you managed not to break the swear filter with your well-argued post. Thanks for the contribution

Was it journalist you wanted in your career ambition??? I can see lots of potential there

Was it a bottle of tequila you wanted in your life ambition? I can see you're halfway there. Keep going

[hannah.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Honestly I don't think I could. I'm too selfish a lot of the time and I'm hard work, so I wouldn't make their lives any easier.

this.

[hannah.]

and the whole 'I met someone once and they were...' argument is incredibly valid. it's just a case of basic association. it's just like saying there was someone in your primary school who was horrible to you and now you take an instant dislike to anyone with their name (in my case its Kirsty). to make that an entirely trivial thing in comparison to people's experience of certain disabilities is just implying that by having a disability someone should be treated 'DIFFERENTLY'. which is what you're all arguing against. double standards <3