[ElProximo]

[QUOTE=Beastie;4323346]

We don't want a house just full of "normal" people like bb4 and bb11. Which were both disappointing series!!

BB11 did well but it's worth mentioning that a lot of the criticism and reason for its low points was aimed at the few 'outrageous' HMs who (apparently appealing to you) were actually jumping on furniture in costumes threatening to spread open their anus to the cameras yelling '****kkkk ****kkkkkkk ****kkkk'.
This is where the subjective thing comes up. You find this the most entertaining.
I thought one of the most compelling and intriguing emotion-inducing moments in all the BB11 series was Steve recounting an absolutely horrifying moment in his life.
Absolutely chilling, memorable, fascinating, deep horror and also tremendous admiration and pride in someone so humble about it.

So you see how the problem here?
It doesn't work to answer this saying something like "Because those ARE the best HMS!".

And then I say "No.. those are the most BORING HMs'.

Just ask most 10 year olds nowadays.. they aspire to be wags, famous.. etc.. Even when I was that age 12 years ago.. not everyone wanted to be wags or famous. A lot has changed over the past like 10 years. Like Big Brother.. went from a social experiment to a fame hungry freak show.

Yes but 10 year olds would want to be the most interesting and exciting attention-getting people. This is what they understand when mom loves outrageous Shabby but thinks Steve is a 'waste of time'.

I want housemates who don't hold back though. Some will.. because they want to sail to the final and win while doing nothing in the house. Like Rachel BB9, Sophie BB10 and Josie BB11.

But this can be a sort of logical consequence to filling the house with outrageous tits-out wild boys and girls being superficial characters.

I don't think a Josie has a chance to 'float' when she has 10 other normal looking 'average person' HMs who have character.
Who have long life experience, wisdom, who have done some significant things in life.

Anyways, I'd say nowadays you don't need BB to throw out its premise and social experiment so it can 'keep up' with the outrageous 'shock reality' programs.
IF you love speed, looks and loud noises then you don't need to spend time trying to drop a racing engine in your family volvo or paint a Jaguar cherry red with yellow stripes. You don't keep trying to put racing tires and smashing down your ford hatchback.
You just go buy any number of high-performance glossy sports cars.

[Beastie]

[QUOTE=ElProximo;4325363]

Originally Posted by Beastie

BB11 did well but it's worth mentioning that a lot of the criticism and reason for its low points was aimed at the few 'outrageous' HMs who (apparently appealing to you) were actually jumping on furniture in costumes threatening to spread open their anus to the cameras yelling '****kkkk ****kkkkkkk ****kkkk'.
This is where the subjective thing comes up. You find this the most entertaining.
I thought one of the most compelling and intriguing emotion-inducing moments in all the BB11 series was Steve recounting an absolutely horrifying moment in his life.
Absolutely chilling, memorable, fascinating, deep horror and also tremendous admiration and pride in someone so humble about it.

So you see how the problem here?
It doesn't work to answer this saying something like "Because those ARE the best HMS!".

And then I say "No.. those are the most BORING HMs'.



Yes but 10 year olds would want to be the most interesting and exciting attention-getting people. This is what they understand when mom loves outrageous Shabby but thinks Steve is a 'waste of time'.


But this can be a sort of logical consequence to filling the house with outrageous tits-out wild boys and girls being superficial characters.

I don't think a Josie has a chance to 'float' when she has 10 other normal looking 'average person' HMs who have character.
Who have long life experience, wisdom, who have done some significant things in life.

Anyways, I'd say nowadays you don't need BB to throw out its premise and social experiment so it can 'keep up' with the outrageous 'shock reality' programs.
IF you love speed, looks and loud noises then you don't need to spend time trying to drop a racing engine in your family volvo or paint a Jaguar cherry red with yellow stripes. You don't keep trying to put racing tires and smashing down your ford hatchback.
You just go buy any number of high-performance glossy sports cars.

You confuse me a bit.

Anyway my favourites are not housemates who just spread their legs out. That was Josie and John James in BB11 who I didn't like.
My favourites from BB11 were Corin, Sam, Ben. I liked Rachael too who was unfortunately evicted first. I also liked Sunshine, Keeley and Mario. Andrew had his moments too.

I like how they socialise.. how there is tension and a big build up! BB11 and BB10 has massive arguments in the first week. Saffia V Sophia, John James V Rachael!

Anyway I just want a house full of mixed housemates. I didn't mind Steve in BB11 but the thing is.. he shouldn't have lasted for as long as he did. People like him should have been voted off early on but still get a bunch of cheers. It's an entertainment show and they best bring back the vote to save.

Anyway.. who do you like?? which housemates?? Just ones like Steve?

By the way.. I didn't like Shabby from BB11. A lot found her entertaining.. as well as John James.. but they were both just so horrible and unlikeable. I didn't like that Keeva bitch either.

[Patrick]

There was a time on TiBB when writing that much about Big Brother would of been acceptable and readable...

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Patrick

There was a time on TiBB when writing that much about Big Brother would of been acceptable and readable...

Yes, they even named the website This is Big Brother. . Or maybe that is just a coincidence.

[mj2303]

oh crap hes back

[AJ.]

Prob nothing but just saw this tweet from a actor -

@DuaineASamuels
jst seen a casting call for the next big Brother!!!! Channel 5, What are you doing???

hmm

[Strictly Jake]

Well I want a Craig Bb1. A Helen Bb2. A Kate Bb3. A victor and Michelle Bb5. A makosi, Anthony, Derek and kinga Bb6. A grace, nikki, glyn and Richard Bb7. A Charley, and a samanda Bb8. A Sara, bex, stuart, rex Bb9. A Lisa, bea, Marcus Bb10. And Bb11 corin, Sam and a shabby. A mix like that with a few more intelligent people

['Conor]

when i saw the title of this thread, i don't know why, but i thought you ment what colour cast you would want on your arm if you broke it..

[Chuck]

[Glenn.]

I want a bunch of normal people, with maybe one or two weirdos. I hope to god they don't fill the house with desperate freaks and page 3 wannabes. Its boring.

Go back to what made the show what it was. Normal people!

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by BenCarter

I made it into the finals heres my audition tape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=************

I don't mind this either. What I'd say is that you might well fit into that category of handsome hipster youth,
HOWEVER,
At least, you are quite animated and chose to aim right to topics, ideas about life etc.

What happens is that they are quick to see you are coming up with a comedy persona. The comedian of the house. Protagonist AND antagonist in every scenario.
But what you need to know is they are also one-step ahead of that. They are not really interested in that so much as what part of your personality and character and life experience makes you feel the need to be like that.
Why you will become highly competitive with (or instantly bond with) another HM who has that same need to be the 'Isn't it weird when..' type of chatty stand-up.
Fair warning too.. ..you could get REALLY effed up in there. On purpose. Big Brother can be so shockingly cruel to exactly your kind of personality and we've seen that with surprising ease.

But look... I'd say at least you showed some depth and, even if, and when they destroy your 'face' I could see you will go for the creative, the 'deeper meaning' and you develop more sophisticated and meaningful relationships than 90% of the applicants we've seen.

btw - I admire anyone who would apply and put themselves out there and goes through what you did.
No matter what they do.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

I don't mind this either. What I'd say is that you might well fit into that category of handsome hipster youth,
HOWEVER,
At least, you are quite animated and chose to aim right to topics, ideas about life etc.

What happens is that they are quick to see you are coming up with a comedy persona. The comedian of the house. Protagonist AND antagonist in every scenario.
But what you need to know is they are also one-step ahead of that. They are not really interested in that so much as what part of your personality and character and life experience makes you feel the need to be like that.
Why you will become highly competitive with (or instantly bond with) another HM who has that same need to be the 'Isn't it weird when..' type of chatty stand-up.
Fair warning too.. ..you could get REALLY effed up in there. On purpose. Big Brother can be so shockingly cruel to exactly your kind of personality and we've seen that with surprising ease.

But look... I'd say at least you showed some depth and, even if, and when they destroy your 'face' I could see you will go for the creative, the 'deeper meaning' and you develop more sophisticated and meaningful relationships than 90% of the applicants we've seen.

btw - I admire anyone who would apply and put themselves out there and goes through what you did.
No matter what they do.

Usually the "comedian", "happy go lucky" types are the ones who are most likely to break down and change dramatically.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Usually the "comedian", "happy go lucky" types are the ones who are most likely to break down and change dramatically.

Sometimes I cringe when I see guys like Ben here enter a BB house because you just know BB will do whatever they can to help that very thing you describe happen. Sometimes in horrific crash-n-burn fashion yikes.

IF they have a real character and something 'behind the comedian' (good or bad) then it can be a genuinely interesting story.

And then some are... well.. there ain't nothing there but the act.

I think Ben would do well because he does have something behind it. He does have some real character, issues, some personality behind that.