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Scarlett. · 22-06-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

Yeah that seems fair, serial killers get less

He'd be getting charged with multiple offences, and theres a lot

Shaun · 22-06-2011, 10:46 AM

that's the legal system for you

Scarlett. · 22-06-2011, 10:47 AM

Also, serial killers wouldnt get less in America, they'd get the electric chair

arista · 22-06-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

that's the legal system for you

19 year old Ryan
is a Guilty Punk.

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Scarlett. · 22-06-2011, 11:18 AM

Apparently according to police sources, he was in the middle of hacking a UK website when the raid happened. Also he only faces 10 years in the UK, though it's likely he'll be extradited to the US to face a much longer sentence.

arista · 22-06-2011, 11:35 AM

Livia · 22-06-2011, 03:01 PM

A couple of things realy disturb me about this case. Firstly, it looks like some people (I don't just mean people on here) are not grasping what a serious crime this is. Hackers put everyone's security at risk. The Internet is in its infancy, and if we don't crack down on hackers right now and make an example of those who are caught, who knows what will happen in the future. Secondly, how come the minute one of these people are caught, there's their Mummy leaping to their defence with the same old chestnuts "he's got special needs" and "he spends a long time in his room I didn't know what he does in there". If your kid's really got special needs, surely you'd take some interest in what he's up to online, wouldn't you? If it does turn out he has special needs (as was claimed with Gary McKinnon, the last idiot hacker the USA wanted to extradite) then their parents should be prosecuted in their place.

Scarlett. · 22-06-2011, 03:41 PM

I agree ^ people don't really realise exactly what these people are doing. For example, Lulzsec and Anon have started 'Operation AntiSec' - basically, they want to hack government websites and publish everything they find. Then there's the bit where they want to publish OUR information on a website, for all sorts of dodgy sorts to use 'for "Lulz'"

MTVN · 22-06-2011, 04:03 PM

I think people are aware what hacking is, and it can compromise peoples security but to suggest that 60 years would be an appropiate sentence is ridiculous. For what it's worth a lot worse could have been done judging by how easy these websites were to infilitrate. I read an article pointing out that we should in some ways be grateful to them for publicly exposing how inadequete the security is on a lot of sites.

The ease with which they have done it probably means it's been done before, or that it could have been done and noone would know about it, and that's more worrying if you ask me.

Josy · 22-06-2011, 04:13 PM

I think its absurd to suggest his parents be prosecuted in his place tbh, his crime, his consequences wether he has learning difficulties or not.

arista · 22-06-2011, 05:02 PM

From ITV London News

Ryan has been charged with 5 charges so far.

arista · 22-06-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

I think its absurd to suggest his parents be prosecuted in his place tbh, his crime, his consequences wether he has learning difficulties or not.

He is 19
and his parents never entered his Criminal Den

His loyal mum banged on his door
and would tell him dinner is there
left outside his door.

His is 100% Guilty
he knew he was doing wrong.

arista · 22-06-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

A couple of things realy disturb me about this case. Firstly, it looks like some people (I don't just mean people on here) are not grasping what a serious crime this is. Hackers put everyone's security at risk. The Internet is in its infancy, and if we don't crack down on hackers right now and make an example of those who are caught, who knows what will happen in the future. Secondly, how come the minute one of these people are caught, there's their Mummy leaping to their defence with the same old chestnuts "he's got special needs" and "he spends a long time in his room I didn't know what he does in there". If your kid's really got special needs, surely you'd take some interest in what he's up to online, wouldn't you? If it does turn out he has special needs (as was claimed with Gary McKinnon, the last idiot hacker the USA wanted to extradite) then their parents should be prosecuted in their place.

Gary is nothing like this
he has a mental problem and because he could not enter
the USA - UFO Gov site
he wrecked all others in his way.

This Punk Ryan is a Outright Criminal.

Vicky. · 22-06-2011, 05:16 PM

LOL at the sentence he could be facing.

You could kill people and get less time than that

Livia · 22-06-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

I think its absurd to suggest his parents be prosecuted in his place tbh, his crime, his consequences wether he has learning difficulties or not.

What I think is absurd is that there's this kid, who's parents know he has special needs, he is in their house, they presumably pay for his broadband, and yet they have no idea what their son is up to on the Internet. If he is not mentally capable of being extradited and standing trial for his wrongdoings as they are suggesting, then his parents surely must take some responsibility.

arista · 22-06-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

What I think is absurd is that there's this kid, who's parents know he has special needs, he is in their house, they presumably pay for his broadband, and yet they have no idea what their son is up to on the Internet. If he is not mentally capable of being extradited and standing trial for his wrongdoings as they are suggesting, then his parents surely must take some responsibility.

No because they never entered his room.

He is 19 and his special needs are not that bad.

arista · 22-06-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

LOL at the sentence he could be facing.

You could kill people and get less time than that

Yes they must set a Example , here.

MTVN · 22-06-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

What I think is absurd is that there's this kid, who's parents know he has special needs, he is in their house, they presumably pay for his broadband, and yet they have no idea what their son is up to on the Internet. If he is not mentally capable of being extradited and standing trial for his wrongdoings as they are suggesting, then his parents surely must take some responsibility.

What do you expect them to do, stand behind them and watch him whenever he's on the internet. Like arista said he's 19, and doesn't have severe special needs, you can't blame his parents for constantly monitoring his online activity 24/7. I'd say very few parents know what they're children are up to on the internet anyway.

Scarlett. · 22-06-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

I think people are aware what hacking is, and it can compromise peoples security but to suggest that 60 years would be an appropiate sentence is ridiculous. For what it's worth a lot worse could have been done judging by how easy these websites were to infilitrate. I read an article pointing out that we should in some ways be grateful to them for publicly exposing how inadequete the security is on a lot of sites.

The ease with which they have done it probably means it's been done before, or that it could have been done and noone would know about it, and that's more worrying if you ask me.

60 years because of mutliple charges there's people in American prisons with 300 year sentences