[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14214197

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Reaction to the phone-hacking scandal is global. Here's Iranian daily newspaper Quds: "What happened in England has not only stigmatised English rulers and imposed irretrievable costs on the country, but has also made it crystal clear that the slogans of Western politicians to respect civil and human rights are simply a series of slogans ment to keep and stabilise their own power."

They have a point .....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14214197

0944:

They have a point .....

I'm usually inclined to agree with you Omar, but not this time. Seriously... Iran? They really aren't in a position to point the finger at the West when it comes to corrupt leaders and a dishonest press. They've even referred to the English, and not the British, which goes some way to demonstrate their grasp of international affairs. They've latched on to this story and used it for their own ends. And they aren't alone... Currently the whole affair is being used by a variety of people with a variety of agendas hoping to get one up on a variety of people. If we don't keep sight of what happened and at least try to find who is responsible we run the risk of the whole thing collapsing in a heap.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm usually inclined to agree with you Omar, but not this time. Seriously... Iran? They really aren't in a position to point the finger at the West when it comes to corrupt leaders and a dishonest press. They've even referred to the English, and not the British, which goes some way to demonstrate their grasp of international affairs. They've latched on to this story and used it for their own ends. And they aren't alone... Currently the whole affair is being used by a variety of people with a variety of agendas hoping to get one up on a variety of people. If we don't keep sight of what happened and at least try to find who is responsible we run the risk of the whole thing collapsing in a heap.

Erm, by specifying Britain, by which I asume you mean Great Britain, I believe that you have excluded Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands - did you mean to do that ?

Of course, Iran has "latched on to this story and used it for their own ends", but it doesn't mean they're wrong to point out that Western politicians are hypocritical - even the MPs sitting on the committes and the police conducting the investigations will, no doubt, have a certain number of axes to grind .....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Omah

Erm, by specifying Britain, by which I asume you mean Great Britain, I believe that you have excluded Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands - did you mean to do that ?

Of course, Iran has "latched on to this story and used it for their own ends", but it doesn't mean they're wrong to point out that Western politicians are hypocritical - even the MPs sitting on the committes and the police conducting the investigations will, no doubt, have a certain number of axes to grind .....

Okay, if we're going to thrash out the semantics, I meant the United Kingdom. But once again, we're detracting from the facts. And yes they are wrong to be pointing the finger. Have you never heard the saying that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? Unless they're throwing them at female "adulterers" of course... which is something they still do in this country that is criticising our political process.

This whole thing has been hijacked by people with their own agendas and everyone with an axe to grind is busy grinding it. I'm not sure about all MPs but the ones I work with are being deluged - deluged -by an orchestrated campaign of emails, letters and postcards, all identical, and coming from people who are not constituents which means other, more important work is being neglected. They are overwhelmingly anti-Tory because people see this is an opportunity to kick the Conservatives. They conveniently forget that Gordon Brown also worked closely with Murdoch.

What people are failing to understand is that the whole world is watching the ridiculous pantomime this has become. They're also failing to understand who is actually responsible.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Livia

Okay, if we're going to thrash out the semantics, I meant the United Kingdom. But once again, we're detracting from the facts. And yes they are wrong to be pointing the finger. Have you never heard the saying that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? Unless they're throwing them at female "adulterers" of course... which is something they still do in this country that is criticising our political process.

This whole thing has been hijacked by people with their own agendas and everyone with an axe to grind is busy grinding it. I'm not sure about all MPs but the ones I work with are being deluged - deluged -by an orchestrated campaign of emails, letters and postcards, all identical, and coming from people who are not constituents which means other, more important work is being neglected. They are overwhelmingly anti-Tory because people see this is an opportunity to kick the Conservatives. They conveniently forget that Gordon Brown also worked closely with Murdoch.

What people are failing to understand is that the whole world is watching the ridiculous pantomime this has become. They're also failing to understand who is actually responsible.

ah, you mean Thatcher .....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Omah

ah, you mean Thatcher .....

Okay, this is feeling like hard work. Enough.