[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

How well was she charting before yesterday do you know - I don't follow them.

she hasn't released new material for years so obviously she wasn't gonna be in the charts recently before this.

but her last album Back to black from 2006 sold 3 million in the UK alone.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Smithy

she wasnt

She wasn't figuring high in the charts? Yet it take her death to raise sales. Ironic really.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

she hasn't released new material for years so obviously she wasn't gonna be in the charts recently before this.

but her last album Back to black from 2006 sold 3 million in the UK alone.

That was over 5 years ago Zippy.

She's not realised anything new for years, her fame these past years has been nothing to do with any musical talent. She had been riding high o the crest of a 5 year old wave. Her show in Serbia a mere few weeks ago, showed that.

Wasn't long after that - 2006- that she met up with Blake and rumours being that he introduced her to the world of crack cocaine and hell knows what else - I wonder how life would have been if she'd never met him - never got involved. Would she still have gone down the same path as she eventually did.

[Zippy]

No she's been too sick to record a new album for years. Clearly too sick to perform properly too. Artist can only be judged by their last album sales...and hers were phenomenal.

*restrains self*

[tmi]

Just posting my view, Elvis still has massive sales and so do Queen, if the music is good it will stand the test of time, I've just bought Bon Jovi hits and I can be seen headbanging to you give love a bad name driving the car. Drives the relatives mad

[Shaun]

music...good...Bon Jovi? -doesn't follow this link -

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by tmi

Just posting my view, Elvis still has massive sales and so do Queen, if the music is good it will stand the test of time, I've just bought Bon Jovi hits and I can be seen headbanging to living on a prey driving the car. Drives the relatives mad

Amy is number one worldwide right now on the charts

Her music will sell strongly for decades. No doubt about it whatsoever.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

No she's been too sick to record a new album for years. Clearly too sick to perform properly too. Artist can only be judged by their last album sales...and hers were phenomenal.

*restrains self*

Does beg the question: if she's been too sick to record anything: why was she purportedly working on a 3rd album? Shouldn't she have been in serious long term recovery, with proper care, counselling, medication etc, if she has been sick for years? That would seem a reasonable thing to do if one is so sick to the point that it affects their career to the point that they cannot work.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Amy is number one worldwide right now on the charts

Her music will sell strongly for decades. No doubt about it whatsoever.

Time will tell my cyber mate

[Stu]

Originally Posted by tmi

living on a prey

Can you at least try?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by tmi

Just posting my view, Elvis still has massive sales and so do Queen, if the music is good it will stand the test of time, I've just bought Bon Jovi hits and I can be seen headbanging to living on a prey driving the car. Drives the relatives mad

Elvis and Freddie Mercury had been around for decades though tmi - and I don't think having continued success over decades can be compared with someone who had a relatively short success rate - pro rata.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Does beg the question: if she's been too sick to record anything: why was she purportedly working on a 3rd album? Shouldn't she have been in serious long term recovery, with proper care, counselling, medication etc, if she has been sick for years? That would seem a reasonable thing to do if one is so sick to the point that it affects their career to the point that they cannot work.

well duh, of course

but attempts at recovery all obviously failed. As they often do with chronic cases of drug addiction.

Don't worry, Pyramid, she was heavily punished for her weak will and stupidity. You can relax.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Stu

Can you at least try?

Stu. Ever considered that perhaps English is not tmi's first language?

It's a distinct possibility.

[Doogle]

Yeah but she had no reason to be in the charts? She might've been if her song was covered on BGT/XF (obviously neither of which are on currently) or heavily featured on an advert but yeah.

I still reckon her 3rd album would've done well regardless of how good it was

[Doogle]

Yeah but she had no reason to be in the charts? She might've been if her song was covered on BGT/XF (obviously neither of which are on currently) or heavily featured on an advert but yeah.

I still reckon her 3rd album would've done well regardless of how good it was

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Stu. Ever considered that perhaps English is not tmi's first language?

It's a distinct possibility.

Mid

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Stu. Ever considered that perhaps English is not tmi's first language?

It's a distinct possibility.

What does that have to do with getting the name of an established song right?

It's hardly as if you are guessing your way through the language. It's an established pop tune that's clearly called 'living on a prayer'.

It's just lazy, really. I'll leave it at that.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Stu

Can you at least try?

I can (prayer) is that better, what you the english language teacher.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

well duh, of course

but attempts at recovery all obviously failed. As they often do with chronic cases of drug addiction.

Don't worry, Pyramid, she was heavily punished for her weak will and stupidity. You can relax.

I was never uptight about her or her ear ly demise to start off with, I'm quite relaxed thanks.

Rather than make this personal - let's go back to what I had asked.
When she went abroad - she was often photographed completely and utterly smashed out of her face. I'd not think that was the best was to attempt to recover.

Do you think she made enough attempts, put enough into trying to recover? I ask because the highly publiced stints in various rehabs were fleeting to say the least. Do you think she really wanted to recover, because it seems to me, that she never quite too the whole 'get dry, get sober, get clean' thing too seriously at all.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by tmi

Mid

Sorry Pet, but sometimes, some things need to be said.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Stu. Ever considered that perhaps English is not tmi's first language?

tmi is from Wales not Kazakhstan.

And yeah, irrelevant point in regards to song titles.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

tmi is from Wales not Kazakhstan.

And yeah, irrelevant point in regards to song titles.

so what? English still may not be her first language.

And yeah, irrelevant point in regards to song titles.

[tmi]

I think better leave right now before it goes any further been nice, I dont like bully boy tactics. I am a newbie to Tibbs and it was nice for a while but then some people dont understand the right to different opnions. I think one spelling mistake or one quote should be mocked, it is a forum for ffs not english Gcse exam ( I have A grade). I supose I will leave now I dont need this ****e.
I got a life.


nos da

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by tmi

I think better leave right now before it goes any further been nice, I dont like bully boy tactics. I am a newbie to Tibbs and it was nice for a while but then some people dont understand the right to different opnions. I think one spelling mistake or one quote should be mocked, it is a forum for ffs not english Gcse exam ( I have A grade). I supose I will leave now I dont need this ****e.
I got a life.


nos da

TMI..... email me pet. x

[joeysteele]

The really sad thing with Amy is that those who were close to her before fame came for her, all say she was dead 'against' the use of hard drugs,she always spoke against them.
It was around or between the albums that she got hooked on them.

She knew the dangers,very clearly, I obviously am extremely sad to see someone who had near all before them as to success losing their life so young, (she was only 8 years older than myself), because of abuse of alcohol and hard drugs.
She though, was against hard drugs, knew the dangers but fell into the trap of them, not helped I think by the hangers on around her who likely believed her fans loved the drugged up drunk image and that she could get away with anything on stage.

Somehow,she just could not get back to her original take on drugs which she herself was against,whether that was because she couldn't or wouldn't is something only she knew.

As to alcoholism etc being diseases,dependency on alcohol and drugs is a condition,it's the serious illnesses and complications that come because of that that brings in the term disease. No one is termed having a disease called alcoholism, but if it affects an organ/s, then,such as in Liver problems, you will then find on medical records 'alcohol related liver disease' or drug related liver disease.
The alcoholic/drugs condition becomes a disease at that point.

I feel Amy maybe didn't want help,she rejected the advice of all warning her, warnings she clearly knew herself since before her success she was dead against hard drugs.So in that she did make a choice to self destruct, yesterday that happened.

As sad as it is, some people don't want to be helped or advised and also don't want to and have no intention of, seeking medical/counselling help themselves either.The sad fact is Amy was possibly one of those people and of course that is hard to accept and sad to think of too.