[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Age has nothing to do with it :/

well if he was 10 when the album originally came out then its probably not the kind of music he was into back then. So it may have passed him by. Its quite an adult album.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

well if he was 10 when the album originally came out then its probably not the kind of music he was into back then. So it may have passed him by. Its quite an adult album.

Oh you were referring to him not liking the music when it came out

Gotcha now

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Zippy

well if he was 10 when the album originally came out then its probably not the kind of music he was into back then. So it may have passed him by. Its quite an adult album.

I actually very much liked rehab, valerie and back to black when they came out I just never had the album so didn't hear songs that weren't released as singles.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Omah

This is NOT an appreciation thread .....



"legend" is applied far too easily to the quick and the dead - similarly, "diva", "talented", "unique", etc, etc .....

I have many disagreements with Zippy,(friendly ones), who you answered in the above post and I am not a great fan of Amy but I have to say when anything is written of real legends of music in the future,certainly, with no doubt whatsoever Amy Winehouse would have to included.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

I concur. I confess i never understood a word he said in movies.

I gave up on Bareback mountain because of his annoying mumbling.

Originally Posted by Marc.

It's true that celebs get respected more when they've died.

or appreciated more.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Its quite sad in a way I think. That they have to die to get more fans :S

Well Michael jackson was scum in America before he died. The rest of the world still gave him support after the pedo accusations. Not his homeland.

Then when he died he was a national hero again and all the celebs came out to glorify him. But they never supported him when alive and his name was soiled.

But yeah, MJ dying was literally the only way his career was ever gonna take off again.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Well Michael jackson was scum in America before he died. The rest of the world still gave him support after the pedo accusations. Not his homeland.

Then when he died he was a national hero again and all the celebs came out to glorify him. But they never supported him when alive and his name was soiled.

But yeah, MJ dying was literally the only way his career was ever gonna take off again.

Yup. Quite similar to all the 'saint jade' stuff too :S

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

too lazy to copy and paste

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...e-funeral.html

Aw tis so sad

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup. Quite similar to all the 'saint jade' stuff too :S

Yeah, I've already brought up that comparison .....

I have no doubt that had AW died of cancer she would have been beatified, too .....

Hardly anybody remembers Goody, of course, now .....

[tmi]

Now pictures

[Harry!]

Jade's influence still lives on. Now because of her many girls across the counrty are now getting compulsory (Though there is an option to opt out) cervical cancer jabs saving many lives in the process.

[Callum]

Everyone is making a big deal out of this photo because she's smiling



Saying she's there for publicity

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Harry!

Jade's influence still lives on. Now because of her many girls across the counrty are now getting compulsory (Though there is an option to opt out) cervical cancer jabs saving many lives in the process.

good point, Harry. As such, she's probably the most useful BB HM of all.

and Omah you still mention Jade all the time so ironic that you imply she's forgotten about.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Harry!

Jade's influence still lives on. Now because of her many girls across the counrty are now getting compulsory (Though there is an option to opt out) cervical cancer jabs saving many lives in the process.

Compulsion is the only way - medical records indicate that the "Jade effect" didn't even last a year before the numbers of young females taking part in cervical cancer testing/prevention procedures was even lower than before .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Zippy

good point, Harry. As such, she's probably the most useful BB HM of all.

and Omah you still mention Jade all the time so ironic that you imply she's forgotten about.

Read my post carefully - it says "Hardly anybody" .....

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Omah

Compulsion is the only way - medical records indicate that the "Jade effect" didn't even last a year before the numbers of young females taking part in cervical cancer testing/prevention procedures was even lower than before .....

If Jade's death encouraged just one person to get checked and have their life saved then she did more good than any other HM.

youre really stretching

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Zippy

If Jade's death encouraged just one person to get checked and have their life saved then she did more good than any other HM.

youre really stretching

No, I'm not.... You are .....

Goody was a loathsome person with no redeeming features .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Omah you still mention Jade all the time so ironic that you imply she's forgotten about.

AFAIK, the last "Goody" threads I raised were on 28/29 March of this year so I hardly "still mention Jade all the time" .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Harry!

Jade's influence still lives on. Now because of her many girls across the counrty are now getting compulsory (Though there is an option to opt out) cervical cancer jabs saving many lives in the process.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8579781.stm

22 March 2010

Is the 'Jade Effect' still working?

Although health professionals and media outlets alike praised the "Jade Goody effect" during her illness and in the months after her death, one year on, they fear it's fading as fast as it came on.

"It certainly did [have an effect] roundabout the time of her death, but it doesn't seem to have persisted," says Alison Baker, the president of the National Association of Cytology. "While it was in the public eye, it was massive."

The official statistics for the year following Goody's death will not be available until October, but Mr Music says anecdotal evidence shows that cervical screening is decreasing - and may even be returning to pre-Jade levels.

http://health.caledonianmercury.com/...s-fading/00812

‘Jade Goody effect’ on cervical cancer awareness fading

August 15, 2010

It’s less than 18 months since reality TV contestant Jade Goody died of cervical cancer, but already public health experts fear the impact on awareness might be tailing off.

The “Jade Goody effect” was credited with pushing up cervical screening rates by four per cent overall in Scotland between 2008 and 2009, and by six per cent in the lowest age group, among 20-24-year-olds.

Although the figures for 2010 have not yet been published, there are concerns that the increases might not be maintained – leaving more women at risk of contracting, and possibly dying from the disease.

[Zippy]

What a ridiculous point. Because the effect isnt lasting forever that somehow negates all the good it did for a good period of time?

give me strength

[InOne]

Wonder when the doc will be

[joeysteele]

Jade certainly was no Saint, then again who is though.
She did howver by her bravery and determination at the end make many aware of the dangers and a great many women did after learning of Jade's plight go and have themselves checked out.

Her sharing that very sad end time to her life has likely saved a lot of problems and also even lives of some women.
Her story also had Husbands and partners being made aware of the dangers and talking it through with their wives etc as to at least just being checked over.
A good legacy on that issue,I would say she left there.

Back to Amy though, I hope people who did admire her take on board also the dangers of excessive drink and drugs.Lessons to be learned for lots of people from both these early deaths of Jade and Amy.

[Shaun]

I'm sure that was her primary motivation, and not the cheques and the fame she'd been living for before.

[InOne]

Jade isn't even in the same league as Amy at anything

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'm sure that was her primary motivation, and not the cheques and the fame she'd been living for before.

Her primary motivation was leaving her sons decent money and security. Having watched somebody close suffer from cancer and face an imminent death I can assure you it sets their priorities straight in life.

Fame at that point of Jades life really wouldn't have meant much. Especially with the way she looked in her latter stages.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Her primary motivation was leaving her sons decent money and security. Having watched somebody close suffer from cancer and face an imminent death I can assure you it sets their priorities straight in life.

Fame at that point of Jades life really wouldn't have meant much. Especially with the way she looked in her latter stages.

On this issue, I 100% agree with you Zippy.